Episode 130: Reacting to Old Episodes: Ep. 22 What is HAES?
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In this episode of The Up-Beet Dietitians podcast, Emily and Hannah react to one of their earlier episodes where they discuss HAES. It’s been about 3 years since the girls discussed HAES and to say a lot has changed in their nutrition philosophy would be an understatement. They take this time to reflect on how they currently feel about HAES and how it can be incorporated into the world of nutrition. Also, cringe warning! For our younger selves mostly.
Time Stamps from Episode 22:
Can’t pronounce words: - 3:16-3:52
Non-scale health measurements - 10:44-11:45
Predicting the future of pickleball - 18:34
The pressure of diet culture - 21:22–22:04
Is weight dangerous? - 30:00
Are we HAES dietitians? - 33:00
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Fat Activists to Follow:
@fierce.fatty
@thefatdoctor
@antidietfatty
@hannahtalksbodies
@heysharonmaxwell
@bodyhonornutrition
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Hello everybody welcome back to a brand new episode of the upbe dietitians
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podcast hello everyone we are doing another reaction video we have been
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around for quite a while now three years which is a while for us
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and we are going to talk about SL react to Things We Said way back when which
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are kind of spooky um but it's some reflection never
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hurt anyone so today we're going to talk about our Haze episode which was episode
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22 recorded back on September it came out September 22nd 2021 which is crazy
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because it's now February 19 2024 so we're going to react to it
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we're going to talk about our thoughts how they've changed it might be a little
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cringy but bear with us we're hopefully a little bit less cringy now probably
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still cringey oh we're still cringy but in different ways in different ways we
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we did react to episode two back in season seven so if you like the cringe
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you want more cringe go watch that one because there was some cringe although less than we expected so hopefully we
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get the same outcome today where it's like we're expecting a lot of cringe but maybe it'll be better than we think it is yes yes one quick thought before we
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get into our time stamps and I want to make this clear like now before we get into it because last time we talked
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about Haze we did not address that the best people to learn about health that every resized from are fat activists and
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those and larger bodies and in episode 22 which we're reacting to today we were
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just sharing our point of view and as we'll kind of get to we talked about how we're not necessarily hay dietitians or
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at least we didn't think we were back then but now whenever we do talk about
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Haze and what it is and what it's all about we try to mention that like for me a thin white girl should not be at the
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Forefront of the haze movement like I'm a very big Ally I talk about it all the time and that activism and all that
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stuff but the best people to learn about this topic from is those who are are the
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most affected by it yeah we're just providing our Insight especially from
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like a clinician standpoint but like we should not be your main Haze resource in
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any ways exactly like even like body positivity fat positivity weight
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inclusivity we should not be your main re resource I if we are we will tag some
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people to follow good idea yes that are better more better references or it would be
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better to reference them we appreciate your support but please support them totally I think it's a good idea we
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definitely include some some peeps below and one more thing before we get into our time stamps we did this last time
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too what are your first initial like thoughts on the vibe of the
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video so my first thoughts were I was very nervous going into this because we
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were Skeptics Skeptics is a good to put it yes we were unsure if this was like
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we like got why it was helpful but I don't think we fully believed why it was
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helpful yeah so I was a little nervous for that I think it was not as bad as I
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thought it was going to be I feel like my perception of younger us were
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just like these like obesity screaming Bey little girls who are like
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pretentious and just came out of college they're academics like but when I walk back I'm like okay
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we're not as annoying as I thought we would have some good thoughts yeah yeah
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and even if we like might not completely agree we
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don't strongly hate on it yeah which I feel like it's just another it's like a
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reflection of our personalities where in some cases I'm saying in some cases because I'm
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excluding you in those cases because if we disagree on something we're not going to go attack someone or create a video
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all about whatever it is and why it's stupid and dumb like I feel like we've honestly got a little bit more
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abrasive as we've aged yeah um so I didn't think it was too bad I agree I I
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was expecting the worst but I think we deserve a little a little bit of credit
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because it could have been again so much worse once again I think the biggest like first gut reaction I had was just
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like we look so much different we look so much older we are aging so quickly it feels like I'm scared like it's making
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me nervous me too like I'm not afraid of Aging I'm so excited to be like 30 40 50
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but it's it's a privilege and a blessing but it's happening fast according to
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what I'm seeing in these videos yes even like looking back at like pictures of us
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from college I'm like H who are those eyes yeah but also we looked like
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children time too we just have some catching up to do I think we're playing catchup also though again I'm going to
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note how our video and editing has improved audio has improved we're
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getting more confident more confident we're getting better at our jobs which is good good for us and for you the
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listeners yeah yes let's get into it without further Ado yes all right our first
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timestamp this is going to be a short one but I wanted to include it weight
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inclusive why why did I read it like inclusivity I know yes wait
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inclusivity wait that was wrong again wait incl inclusive activity inclusive you're
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adding to many itty itty it inclusivity wait
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inclusivity yeah there you go I like my version better but your version's way
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better that's so unbrand adding too many itty itty itties
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at least we haven't changed there I was like I just want to include this still struggling to speak here we are it's a
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struggle because we run a whole darn podcast but half the time we can't get
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get our words out but it's part of our charm we're authentic is what it is it's not a flaw it's authenticity which is
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valuable yeah you definitely know it's not scripted because we're really struggling there is
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no teleprompter here that's for sure even if there was we probably still would like stutter over our words and
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mix things up yes I'm sure with that inclusivity thing we had it written down somewhere and still pronunciation was
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just all a muck all right we're gonna watch our next
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one I do try to take the the focus away from the scale and focus so much more on these behaviors
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because focusing on the scale first of all is just frustrating because it goes up and down all the time and it's just
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such an external thing you can't really control that much whereas you have total control over what foods you choose for
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the most part I guess there's situations where you don't but um how food makes you feel you can start to focus more on
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eating when you're hungry stopping when you're satisfied that sort of thing so I think that's a really good I really like
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that part of haze is taking the focus away from weight and focusing more on those healthy behaviors I liked that we
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were appreciating some scale nonwe non-scale
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victories antiscale which is great one I did want to note was the one comment
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about having access to food whenever we'd like you did make the comment that like the are cases I
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don't but like we should have elaborated more but now I feel like we do a much better job of discussing and becoming
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more aware of like food and security and accessibility and that's just like us educating ourselves a little bit better
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the only thing something new I wanted to quickly note and I'm like go I'm going through this very quickly right now is
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when we talked about hunger and fullness cues this is something very recently like past two months I've maybe seen people
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talking about how like people with disabilities might not
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be able to utilize that or like register those CO as much like ADHD dementia brain fog those are all going to be
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mental blocks that will create a barrier that won't that
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won't allow you to gauge your hunger fullness quite as well so I think that's something that we we I think in our
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early days we focused like so much on the hunger and fullness Cube or hunger and fullness scale but now we're a
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little bit better about like what specifically like these are factors that
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are very valid and real that people struggle with daily that might be affecting and it's not just like Diet
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culture screwing you up that's affecting it that there are other factors at play
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totally agree I think that has been a big like a very recent change that we're
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hearing talked about more and it probably has to do with like things like ADHD autism being diagnosed more so it's
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being talked about more which is great and when it comes to our profession like you said it is something
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that we're just now learning about this far into being like practicing dietitians so same like I'm talking
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about hunger and fullness a lot differently now than I was back then and
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this is where like the different types of hunger we want to tie it into intuitive eating not that we have to always tie intuitive eating into it but
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if we did if I had someone who was like talking about intuitive eating that was our approach um this is where the
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Practical hunger piece would come in where if we don't have the physical hunger cues because of diet culture or
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because of something like ADHD we still know that we need to be fueling our body consistently it's just
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we're approaching it differently and finding ways to get nutrition in when appetite's not really there whether it's
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abandoning the idea of mindful eating and like eating while you're distracted or drinking your calories because it's
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going to be the only thing that you know keeps it down if appetite is pretty poor so it is not just hunger and
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fullness that's a big piece of all this and diet culture really can mess it all up like being on a diet for a long time
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can absolutely get rid of your hunger cues for example and of course if you're a b Jeter like that can really play a
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role on your fullness cues but there's so much more to it than just the physical physiological side of things I
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think that this is also just like I was thinking about where we were like this was when the first 25 episodes we made I
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was barely I wasn't even I was barely a dietitian I think you were a year in a
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year and a halfish yeah at this point like we were still baby dietitians not that that's excuse but it's also I think
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a reflection of our previous education our like personal past like we both have
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very privileged pasts um and how we're we like raised so
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I think it's just like we're older now
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physically and Visually apparently visually um and luckily as time has gone
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on I like to think we're still learning which is good like you're who's to say like three years now
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now the things we might be saying now maybe we're missing something and
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yeah that's okay as long as we continue to admit we were wrong that's another
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big thing comes with learning and then kind of just like elaborating on
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what we can change exactly I did make another note about the whole thing that
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I said about if you eat healthy you'll likely be healthy I I would not say that now like
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that is barf like why would I say that we have learned a lot more about the social determinance of health and how
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there's so much more to our health than just the things that we eat you mentioned like our privileges I think
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that totally played a role into this mindset in the side of things too and I do also wonder if our education could
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have also played a role in that we were always being taught like nutrition as medicine as dietitians it's our job to
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help people eat healthy so they get healthy but there's so much more to than that and we've definitely learned that
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over time and so again I would not go as far to say that if you eat healthy
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you'll be healthy we would never say that now absolutely
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not that was one of the cringier things I said the episode I was like it kind of like slipped in there I
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was like there was one minute when when I was saying that you have full control
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over your food choices your face like did a little twist you're like uhuh it's okay now we're you're one step
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ahead of me there it's okay we're learning we're learning we're learning
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yeah now we're much more comfortable talking about it I feel like it's like the confidence thing I was like there
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were things like we kind of like now we're like yes oh my gosh all right let's go to our
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next one this is going to be a fun one or not that thatx not that that wasn't
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fun but this one is it'll be short and sweet
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let's say someone's size does not dictate what type of exercise or
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movement they should be doing and also if we see an individual participating in
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whatever activity it is whether it's going to the gym whether it's going for a run whether it's water polo whether
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it's water polo that came to my head I was like
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water whether it's pickle ball pickle ball I've
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actually heard a lot about pickle ball lately I don't know why that's like a thing now I think it's coming back in
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popularity but kind of weird yeah so we should not be judging people based off
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what types of movement they choose to participate in and I right that's
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enough my brain still works at the same rate of
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here but um we are predicting the future I'm so impressed yes I'm excited for our
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2024 diet culture resolu resolution review episode because I feel like we're
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already on it okay two things I sent this to you the other day Emily the the
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ramen the wellness Ramen that I saw that's a thing we totally called it also on my YouTu YouTube like homepage today
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I saw a video about rhubarb I was like is the algorithm just
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algorithm and like reading my thoughts and like my data and stuff or is rubarb like becoming a trend like we predicted
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what was did you watch it I didn't watch it I like saw it and I was busy so I didn't have time to like look more into
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it but I saw rubar in the thumbnail like a recipe or something and it was recent
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like how oh that's true I don't know if YouTube If it's it could be very old but I'm assuming it the homepage my YouTube
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algrim is all messed up I'm seeing only videos from four to five years ago really yeah that's so weird except
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for like our dietician friends those are the only new ones I
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see but it could just be the algorithm yeah regardless Reb rebarb rhubarb and
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wellness Ramen and pickle ball already like it's only February it's not
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even the summer and rhubarb is coming up I know all right that was fun all right
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that that was cute and fun all right our next one oh this one's heavy I
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know this one and then actually the next all the rest of them here on out I think
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that was that was it for fun ones guys yeah sorry buckle up a certain standard
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so you're now considered healthy but if an individual chooses to if they want to
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lose weight and it's for their own personal reasons not because society's pressuring
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them not because a health professionals pressuring them not because their family
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or friends or significant others pressuring them which that last one makes me most mad but um I
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think it really like I guess it really just
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really I don't know what it it's hard to put into words I know what you mean yeah because it's your personal decision what
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you do with your body at the end of the day and I think heyes recognizes that
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and as long as you're doing it for yourself and whatever reasons behind
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your motivation for that I think it's fine I don't say I don't think I don't
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and sentences I was like No period patiently
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waiting for me to like end a sentence constant run on um I don't know how to feel about
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this I like were so close I was like so close watching this
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I was like like we're like what you were
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saying about like pressure from society like that was all on on point
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but there's like one thing that we're missing whenever we talk about this kind of stuff in these videos that just isn't
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completely getting the point across yeah I don't quite know what's missing either
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and like I know because we started talking about like I think the question that led up to that was is weight is
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Hay's weight loss like positive or like something like that yeah
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and I honestly like don't know where well from a haze stand Point
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Health in every size we're going to treat people we
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should counsel and work with people the same no matter what their size is we
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should not give different nutrition advice medical advice based off of
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that so then I don't know if weight loss I don't think Hayes is weight loss positive from that standpoint
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because I feel like I'm seeing this from very like fat phobic lens that are the
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healthc care field is right now especially in
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America where weight loss is very liberally advised with people who are
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considered like quote unquote overweight where they wouldn't do that to a younger
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person but that I feel like it wasn't answering the question what I said was not answering it was like not I was
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going for the like body atomy and like
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body neutrality like you can do whatever you want with your body that aspect but the question was about weight loss
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specifically with Haze I think we were trying to beat around the bush a little
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bit on purpose because we didn't know the answer to that and my understanding
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of it now is what I say all the time like if making Health promoting Behavior
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changes like like eating regularly throughout the day eating a variety of foods managing stress sleeping better if
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that happens to lead to weight loss because you were above your body's happy set point weight whatever you want to
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call it it's not bad that you lost weight but
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pursuing intentional weight loss like using weight as your only measurement of success that is when we know we have the
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most risk of you know weight cycling yo-yoing disordered eating behaviors
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being established so I think my again my understanding now is it's not anti- weight loss per se
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like weight loss can happen it's not a bad thing for your body to change weights but pursuing intentional weight
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loss is not recommended because we know the risks of it yeah I don't think we
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had the guts to say that correct yeah correct it was like almost
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there almost there we I think we were trying to avoid answering it directly
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because I think I say this later but like we were in such a weird wishy-washy
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phase that it's only like recently we felt we've just talked about this before on the podcast that we felt like we feel
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pretty firm in our beliefs but back then we had no idea what we were behind like what movements we were
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standing behind yeah and it's unfortunately something that like just being in the field is what
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like helped us the most like oh yeah we kind of knew had some beliefs
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obviously in we have lots of thoughts and opinions but it was more like I feel
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like theoretical because we weren't working with people really well we we were at sometimes but from a nutrition
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standpoint we weren't getting paid like it wasn't our job we were little students doing
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our like exercise and what not but anyway I was like when I watched that I
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was like so close it's okay we're evolving we're
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evolving this next one is the yikes I don't wanna I know we have to
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these last couple ones just really power through
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we it's fine we it's it's your personal
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decision what you do with your body at the end of the day and I think Hayes recognizes that and as long as you're
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doing it for yourself and whatever reasons behind your motivation for that
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I think it's fine I don't say I don't think hay though is like anyone who wants to lose
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weight has been brainwashed by society which like honestly we we kind of have
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been we all have been brainwashed by Society with weight loss so like that's fair
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so I'd love to hear your thoughts because I feel like you'll say something more eloquent than what I just said um
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don't get your hopes up but um I actually really agree with what you just said I think I kind of have the same
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view um I think it really depends on the specific person who promotes Haze
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because there are some like I'm going to use things example of dietitians there are some Haze dietitians who are very
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very anti- weight loss and like that makes me Leary of saying that I'm a haze
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dietitian because I am all about what you were just describing body autonomy you know if you do want to change the
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way your body looks that's okay but I think I said this before a million times on here we have to figure out kind of
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the why behind why you're doing that and kind of focus on that first um so yeah I
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do think hay as a whole isn't anti- weight loss it is about that body autonomy but if you ask certain people
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who who do really really promote Hayes I don't think that they would say the same
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thing but from what we've kind of just learned from like actual Haze itself I
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think I would agree that they're not anti- weight loss but they also aren't promoting weight loss either that's
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definitely not the goal obviously it's basically what I just said the only
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funny part not the only funny part one of the funny parts is I was basically saying that I would not like this
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version of me like full-blown like weight neutral Haze promoting dietician like I could never
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we were trying to play Both Sides we were trying mentioning like the
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confidence and like how much firmer we are in our stances now that's like a such a good point I didn't like really
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think about that like we've gotten so much better at picking a lane and staying in it with also while also
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providing Nuance at the same time too yeah uh
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I also remember distinctly though that we we follow we both follow a lot of
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dietitians over we've followed a lot of dietitians over the past 10 years and I remember we were following some that
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like we were still afraid of I'm gonna say still afraid of
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some and we saw they were like Haze dietitians they're still Haze dietitians and we're like oh they speak they they
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feel so strongly about is like I don't know if that's
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us it's very funny that you say that because just today I was thinking about someone that I follow so this person I
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used to follow her because I knew her personally but then I unfollowed her during this phase of my life because she
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is very much like Haze weight neutral eating disorder recovery and it was just too much for me but then recently I saw
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her on my for you page or something like that I was like oh my gosh it's so and so and I ref followed her because
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obviously now I'm like yeah all about that but you're so right like it was a
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little bit too much for us we weren't quite quite ready to fully accept message that was
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being portrayed I think that's important for us to think about now when we get like negative feedback like people
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aren't always ready to hear this message I was just having that train of thought
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I was like it's not necessarily that they don't like us maybe just not ready
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to hear it or they're not in a place that they're open to hearing it exactly
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because we were not for a long time which we are also victim
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victim um the people doing the crimes
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criminals nobody call us criminals guilty we're also guilty
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that's better yeah we are also guilty of following and unfollowing people quite a
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bit so we've also been there I don't know either let's go on to the next one let's
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talk about the next one because it's gonna get worse it's it's gonna get worse oh God I literally having in the M
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barf and ew if that gives you any hint of what's to come oh
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no oh no this is the worst part there's a Tik Tok that I made of this clip that's coming up that's how proud of it
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we were I like to use the H this is so sappy but say more like happy at every
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size just from the perspective of from those clinical components like we do
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know that people who are obese are at higher risk not that everyone who is in a larger body is going to get these
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diseases but they are at higher risk of type two diabetes and high blood pressure and other cardiovascular
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diseases back pain bladder issues like there's a ton of comorbidity comorbidities that do come along with
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sometimes obesity overweight that sort of thing but that's not to say that every single person who struggles with
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those is going to have those so I'm having a hard time put this into words
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today because I don't want to say the wrong thing because I do absolutely agree with almost everything hay stands
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for I just have seen a lot of different Hayes
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people they just take weight out of the conversation which is good but sometimes they neglect that weight can be
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dangerous but it also isn't always dangerous we have to really focus on the individual what they need specifically
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what their health is actually like and not just make this blanket overview statement for each person because it's
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just not how it works every single person is so so different so that's my struggle with I'm not even gonna say
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with hay because it's not hay I feel like Hayes has really great principles and basic Foundation guidelines if you
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will but with some people that enforce Haze I do have a a internal struggle
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with what they promote sometimes my anagram n was just like shining through big time in that little
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clip is just refusing to take a stance yeah and
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it's it's like let me say this but let me say this
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but so bad okay my very first sparf is towards happy at every size like who
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gave me the right to rename this movement that is benefiting so many people where do I get off honestly
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disgusting yeah I was like I thought it was kind of cute still I was like you're
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a little like lip you were like oh I was like it's I know you're cringy but I'm like I
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still think it's cute but it's just the root of how it
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was based out of misunderstanding of what it actually all means is why I'm so uncomfortable with it um my other ew was
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I don't even want to repeat it in like this version of me in case it gets like misconstrued on the internet somehow
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this is a quote from a past version when I said weight isn't always dangerous but it can be
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dangerous dangerous was that the right word to use I don't think so we have to
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acknowledge where you were in life though at this point I was literally a weight loss dietitian and when you come
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from a very heavy weight focused education and you
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in that you are more likely to
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be susceptible to these thoughts correct um I made a note of how I would
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rephrase this now in case that's helpful for those of you hearing this and you're not quite sure what the problem is why
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I'm barfing and eing all over my desk right now what I would say
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differently is that the misunderstanding of haze is that it's promoting that every single person in a larger body is
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healthy that's not what it's saying it's not saying that every single person in a larger body quote unquote overweight or
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obese is just this icon of Health what it is saying is that those in larger
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bodies can absolutely be healthy even though we're always told that they're it's not possible because
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if you're overweight or obese you're going to have type two diabetes high cholesterol whatever and I would also point out while talking about this now
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the concept of healthism and how you don't owe anybody weight or excuse me health and if you are unhealthy whether
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you're in a fat body or a thin body you still deserve respect care all the same
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things that someone in the opposite body size would receive we did not know what Haze
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was we should have held off on this topic for a little bit longer we like kind of got it but not
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really we I think we understood it the way that the average person understands it maybe a little bit more being
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dietitians and getting a little bit more exposure but M we just we weren't we didn't get the
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full thing like we do now you're totally right we should also link below our
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episode on Obesity as a disease to I was thinking that I was like we would be imagine like remember
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you know how they're like things that would make a like child from the Renaissance like
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die this our obesity is not a disease episode would
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make this version of us die we definitely go listen to it though
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yeah we better explain like again why what we're saying in this old episode isn't quite
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right we elaborate much more and understand it much better yeah I was
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gonna say I did include one other time stamp to end us wrap us up um I did
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allude to this but it's about like our our stance as a dietician and being so
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wishy-washy yes which I feel like just we'll wrap this up so well because
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that's a common theme of the entire episode which is like the same with
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dietitians that's okay if not all dietitians speak to
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you yeah like we're all gonna have different views that's just like being
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human um so that's definitely not I'm trying to say that I like don't like
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people who are hard dieti weight loss that's definely not the case I could I I
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could get along very well with someone like that and I could have patients that would or clients that would even refer to someone like that but what I practice
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as a dietitian is not anti-e loss and so those who have polar opposite views of
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mine is fine but that is something I just have a hard time promoting because
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that's not what I do I guess yeah no I get it that makes sense to me yeah
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yeah I've been as a new dietitian I've been kind of like having a mental crisis about that like what what's what's my
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stance but I'm like realizing I don't have to like have a stance I can like change my view for every single person
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and like change the way I approach different situations yeah like weight loss might be better for someone and
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another person it might not be something we should ever discuss exactly and like but that's like very individual yeah
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like I have some who love weighing themselves watching their weight weight graph go down I have others that I have told to throw the scale away because
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it's only causing more anxiety and stress so it's just so different for every single person and I think that was
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really the bottom line of what I try to do as a dietitian is making it individual instead of just saying every
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single person has to follow these specific guidelines at
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least self-awareness is there of not knowing what to believe I feel like
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until recently we discussed this before like it was not until very recently that we feel so much more confident which I
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know been kind of the theme today like the first three years as a
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dietician was exactly that so wishy washy which totally makes sense with like the work environments and being so
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freshly out of a weight Centric education but it feels good to like
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finally be in a place where I don't know it all obviously like I said we're probably look back on this episode in three years and be so cringe cringed out
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see we still can't talk but that's okay but I do thankfully again like feel
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so much more confident now in my stances which is a good feeling I
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agree it's over we did it it was we're
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so brave we're so brave okay final thoughts the the big
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question of the episode was did we consider ourselves Haze dietitians we were obviously not so obvious about our
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answers what about now do we consider ourselves Haze dietitians now I think
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we're Haze dietitians now yeah I think we're de we actually know what it is a
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little bit better and we always we're always
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talking about like like fat phobia and health care and how we can
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better assist our patients and clients besides just focusing everything on
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weight yeah and like understanding the harms of dieting And discussing that and
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like weight loss is not a behavior change like stuff like that like I would
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consider us Hast dietitians now I would too I think because we understand it I
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think we were trying to get to this version of us I don't know how I wish think of a metaphor like we were trying
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to like break free of our little shell but we just like couldn't couldn't crack it open like we were meant to be here
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but we just couldn't get here for some reason as fast as we wanted to anyway honestly since we both are no longer
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kind of in these environments anymore I feel like both of our first first
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dietician jobs were just not the healthiest environments and we were both
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being fed different types of information and then we come on here and like talk about it while we were also like knew
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what we wanted to believe in but it was hard when your nine to five is like
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saying something else and it's a lot it's a lot on little 20s something year
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old brains who frontal cork Sexes aren't even developed no life experience at
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this point like no well guys we have plenty of other cringy old episodes if
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you want us to keep reflecting on all the self-growth that we've made it is it
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is nice it's cringey but it's nice to see how many great changes there have
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been the last few years and I appreciate us giving constructive criticism to
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ourselves because one I feel it's easier for us to criticize ourselves taking criticism from
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others two it is so interesting to see how just like our thought processes
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change yeah so as much as we don't want to do it we're
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going to keep doing these reaction videos yeah yeah unless you guys are
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like adamantly against them if you're like I can't handle the cringe we'll think about taking a step
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back otherwise last day L to review yeah yeah
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cool well subscribe to the YouTube If you have not because you could have watched all those scenes with us already
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side by sides there um make sure you rate the podcast five stars so we can
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keep having the will to do this and react to our younger s
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and yeah oh and then listen to our bonus question we're going to go chat and probably talk too much about our
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childhood trauma there so as always all right guys we'll see you next week bye
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