Episode 135: Weight Loss Medications Sent to Your Home? Reviewing Ro’s Weight Loss Program

Season 8

Apr 17

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In this episode of The Up-Beet Dietitians podcast, Emily and Hannah review the Ro Weight Loss Program. One of Ro’s biggest marketing points is easy access to weight loss medications like Ozempic, Wegovy, and Zepbound that you can get through telehealth visits and not dealing with the shortages of these meds. The girls chat about what the weight loss program entails, how much the program costs, and what the healthcare team looks like. This might be what the future looks like regarding weight loss medications… time will tell (and we’ll probably make more episodes about it lol). Tune in to learn more!

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0:08
Hello everybody, Welcome back to a brand new episode of the Upbeat Dietitians podcast.

Hello everyone, the saga continues of the weight loss medications.

Here we are today.

I feel like the last like 3 or 4 episodes have been all about this in like.

0:28
Most of the different.

Way, yes.

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0:49
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So we will continue to be sad while doing this, but we're gonna we're here to entertain and we need some motivation, you know?

1:06
So you gotta give us some positive reinforcement.

And lastly, a strong content warning, trigger warning.

For this episode, we will be talking all things weight loss.

So if that's a triggering topic, please do not listen.

1:24
But let's get into it.

We're talking about Ro.

I had not heard of this before until you texted me and said let's do a RO episode.

I was like, what even is this?

I only know about it because our we have two streaming services, one of them being Hulu.

1:43
And I swear for weeks this RO was the only ad that we saw.

And I'm like I've.

Seen it on Hulu.

I don't know why I've never seen it there.

I've seen like other like I've seen like other like diety things before.

2:00
Just not like I I I like I've seen new a million times new Mads.

I'm surprised that I haven't seen this one.

I've.

Never seen a new.

Uh huh.

What is it based off of cause like we're watching like New Girl and.

2:15
Same.

Like nothing.

Food or No documentaries about food, nothing like.

I don't know how the.

Algorithm is interesting.

Streaming algorithms work, yeah.

Well, either way they both know that apparently we work with nutrition, but also both topics are very popular right now.

2:38
So row weight loss.

Let's talk about it.

They are.

Their big thing is like advertising directly and being in contact with the consumer.

You don't have to like go through all these obstacles.

They work directly with you and they're a telehealth company and they offer a range of different like testing kits and prescriptions and over the counter products.

3:03
There's a wide range of products on there and I was like what an interesting assortment of options you have to choose from.

Yeah, I was getting like Herbalife vibes.

If Herbalife prescribed medications, it was like just so many random things.

3:23
I was getting Goop vibes as well.

Oh yes, definitely goop vibes if Gwyneth.

Could push meds and this is what she might be.

If if Gwyneth hired a a weight loss physician, this is what she would be doing.

3:40
Yeah.

So yeah, they have like Roe as a whole, like the whole company is called Roe and they have other like target audiences besides weight loss.

They also have like sexual health, hair, skin, fertility and also just like daily general stuff like multivitamins.

3:56
But of course, today we're talking all about the weight loss segment.

I guess we could always talk about the other ones too, because they have like supplements and stuff for all of them.

But today it's just weight loss.

And of course have.

Been about the weight loss.

OK, OK.

4:12
I wonder how long they've been around with the other stuff then if that has been around for a while and now they're like they're hopping on to this weight loss train because of Ozempic and everything, who knows.

But they say on the site, quote get prescription medications online, see if you qualify for Ozempic will will go V or Zep bound.

4:32
It looks like those are the only three they prescribe.

Oh no, that's not true.

There was one that was like a combination semaglutide as well.

I didn't have like a brand name, but those are the big three that I saw they're prescribing.

And I was a little confused because Wogovi and Zetbound are FDA approved for weight loss.

4:51
Ozempic still isn't, and I'm not surprised they're prescribing it 'cause obviously it's being prescribed for weight loss all the time off label.

But I was surprised they weren't prescribing Monjaro 2, which also is not FDA approved for weight loss.

5:06
And it's similar to Zep Bound.

So I wonder if it's just like so similar to Zep Bound that they're not prescribing it for that reason.

But Ozempic and Wogovi are both semaglutides, so I'm like why are they doing both of those but only one of the tirzepatides?

Maybe it's more than name like that's.

5:23
What everyone knows.

But I but honestly, Manjaro's pretty popular.

I would say Manjaro might be more popular than Zep Bound.

And that's because Zep Bound is like really new.

It's the first like FDA approved version of Manjaro basically for weight loss.

5:40
Probably that's why they have that done.

They're like, yeah, yeah, we're FDA approved.

We got some bound.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So anyway, just my clinical dietitian brain was curious about that, but those are the big three Ozempic Wagovians that bound and like Emily said, their whole thing is to like market right to the consumer.

6:01
And so they say quote we're pushing every day to get medication to our patients faster.

And so I didn't look into the timeline of this, but that's that makes me wonder if like they're meaning for this to be a solution to like all of the injectable shortages that have been happening.

I don't know exactly when they came around, but like, I wonder if they're getting bigger and like doing more advertising because their whole thing is like, we have the meds that you want but can't get access to because of all the shortages.

6:27
I mean, that's good marketing.

They're on the money there.

People have been good with their marketing recently.

I know.

They're, they're, they're whoever the marketing teams are and row and what was the other one?

Go low.

6:43
Go.

Low.

I was a goop they had.

They have really good marketing too.

Golu had us shaking in our boots at how good their marketing.

Was I was stunned.

We were shocked like they.

Took straight from our brains.

And I know our website, the Intuitive Eating Books.

7:02
Yeah, that's crazy.

Yeah.

But I it would make sense, especially with the shortages that like you don't have to worry about waiting or like going to see someone you can apply online and you can pay out of.

Pocket, that's a big part of this is like they they do accept some insurances.

7:21
It looks like they have like an insurance concierge that can like help you identify what coverages and stuff.

But they're also, it seems like you can just like pay out of pocket.

So this is a great resource for those who have the funds to pay out of pockets for these medications.

They got you covered.

7:40
Yes, they do.

So besides the medication, they do offer like one-on-one personal coaching.

I didn't really find much about, like, what that meant or like who the coaches are.

7:55
Really vague.

I saw something about health coach being like the the type of coach.

No sign of a dietitian anywhere for the one that we'll get to.

We saw one dietitian.

We'll talk about her later, but it seems like it's like a just a health coach.

Or of course, I'm sure the physicians also give nutrition information.

8:14
Yeah, knowing how weight loss stocks are.

Yeah, and then something I noted on the home page.

They had this fun little scaling tool which I had fun with only because I like moving it back and forth and.

8:30
Seeing changes you're the target audience for.

That I am the target audience for that.

But then I was like looking a little bit deeper.

So essentially what they have you do is like put like how much you currently weigh on their little sliding scale that I was like woo and it shows you how many potential pounds you could lose.

8:51
And I looked a little bit into this and it was based off of one study and the study was a year and 16 weeks to 20 weeks long.

So not even a.

Year and a half.

Like, yeah, that's what it's based off of.

9:10
There's there were no long term, no longer studies than that, like decided and it was just one.

It was also interesting to me the range they were providing.

I was like in my head I was like what if someone weighs less or more and they want to know and what is?

9:28
And also like this isn't very individualized.

It's just like potential weight loss.

But then I'm like, now you're setting up of expectations right off the bat.

Yeah.

It was like just like the percent of your total body weight based on that one study that they found.

And that makes you wonder like how big of a weight range did they have in that study that they're getting this like say 15% weight loss that you could lose?

9:54
Like, obviously if the group that they tested on were all of higher weights, it would be, quote UN quote, a little bit easier to lose more.

But if everyone was like 150 lbs in that group, it's gonna be a totally different ball game compared to those in larger bodies.

10:13
Yeah, it was interesting.

I just like the scale feature.

Yeah, it is fun.

I'm looking at it right now, actually.

And to be honest, I don't wanna.

I don't know how to word this.

So it comes off the right way.

10:30
It's not an impressive amount of weight loss that you see from this medication.

Not that I encourage pursuing more drastic weight loss, because we know that quick weight loss is typically just going to lead to rebound eating and weight regain, but it's not that impressive.

10:50
I was looking at the range and I was like, I think it was like 28 to 50 total, 'cause I like went all the way down to the bottom and then went to the top and I was like, I feel like they're for how much you're potentially paying.

There should probably be a bigger range, yeah.

11:07
And potential weight loss if you're going to, if you're going to be paying hundreds of dollars.

And deal with all these side effects and injecting yourself weekly if not daily depending on the medication like.

Yeah, yeah.

11:25
But let's let's talk about what's included, because this is and the price we love talking about money on here.

We do talking about how inaccessible all these weight loss things are.

So they have like the getting started phase which is $99.00 and this includes like all of your like of course like getting started things.

11:45
So you do an online health questionnaire which I'm assuming your physician looks at and goes over with you and that's how they decide what medications you're a good fit for.

You do a lab test.

This part seemed weird to me.

So apparently they like partner with this company called Quest and it's like an at home blood collection kit.

12:05
And so if you live in a place where Quest is available, it's like part of this $99.

Otherwise you need to like get it yourself basically.

And they test for things like your like cholesterol levels, your glucose level, there's all like creatinine was on there.

12:26
I don't know exactly all the tests that they run, but they say that they use metabolic testing from this Quest lab draw to determine what medication you're a good fit for.

And the only thing I could think of of like what this would have to like how this would work 'cause they usually just do like use BMI for if you're overweight or obese to figure out what medication you're a good fit for.

12:50
I do know that like with wogovy, if your BMI is under 30, I believe you have to be like 2728 or 29 and also have a comorbidity or related comorbidity such as like dyslipidemia or hypoglycemia.

13:06
So I'm wondering if that's why they do that, to figure out if your BMI is below 30, if you can still qualify for something like Wacovi for example.

I wouldn't be surprised, especially from like an insurance standpoint or like.

Exactly.

I think it's an insurance thing.

13:21
Med coverage.

I will know we have a lot of quests around us.

Oh really?

I've never heard of this before.

It's just a like, just like a lab.

Company.

So do they do like either in person, labs, or even like this at home kit it sounded like?

13:37
I think they might have.

I've always like, if I ever go to a quest like we'll send like orders there for patients and then they'll get labs drawn there.

And I think they have like certain like like oh an array of test tubes.

13:55
I'm assuming whichever ones they need will be included there.

Interesting.

But they somehow send it to that location or like I think, I think I went to like a quest for like my a drug screening for my job.

OK.

14:11
Well, it's like around here I guess.

It's just like a lab company that has various locations you can go to.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it's pretty basic stuff.

I was just kind of confused like why they would really need that for these medications specifically.

14:27
So my only thought was.

Or if they do a like look at these changes your labs have made.

True.

But it doesn't.

Based off of the website, it does not seem to give those vibes.

It's very How much weight did you lose centered?

14:43
Exactly.

So from here, your provider writes the prescription.

If you're a good fit for one, which I'm guessing you will be based on this company, they're wanting you to take these meds.

I'm.

Sure turn you away.

I'm sure it's pretty, pretty tough to get turned away.

14:59
I've I've heard anecdotally from some patients that they have pursued like telehealth for these medications and the doctor asked like no questions and they just like gave it to him.

It's been, it's crazy.

No, I don't have any data or like any information about like what companies and stuff like that, but that's what I've been hearing from certain patients.

15:22
I will note, Speaking of accessible medications, my sister got birth control.

She's out in California like so easily online I don't even.

And I think she did have a telehealth visit, but there it wasn't.

15:41
It didn't sound super comprehensive and I was like like just birth control.

And these are very different.

But it was just like, kind of like interesting how easily she was able to get the medication and it didn't feel like there was a thorough background, clinical background done.

16:02
And you're right, like that's a little bit different than this.

But, like, still, I feel like like for weight loss.

Are they screening for mental health?

Obviously not.

Like, I can definitely say that's probably not the case.

Like, it's kind of crazy how easy it seems to get some of these medications.

16:23
I don't know.

And like we're all for like accessible healthcare.

It's just like in this case like they're like anytime you're prescribing a medication you should do a there should be thorough.

Like we don't, I don't know what they're questionnaire looks like, it says online Health questionnaire.

16:41
So that sounds to me like they're filling out like little.

Google Sheets or a Google Form.

Yeah, but there's a lot of side effects.

Or like there are people who potentially shouldn't be taking it in the case of like the birth control.

Like there are people with like, blood clotting disorders that should not be taking specific birth controls.

17:01
Yet my sister didn't mention anything about like screening for that.

And then in this case, like they're never gonna.

They're never.

Maybe they'll surprise us since for you to be eating disorders, but I feel like there should still be another added layer of security to your health.

17:23
And I know that's gonna sound like an added barrier, but like medications aren't just something you Willy nilly like, mess around with.

Like might Mess around and try Ozempic.

Exactly.

Like I think that's the issue.

17:38
Like I'm glad that medications are becoming more accessible, but I think that access to a healthcare team should be just as accessible.

And it's not at least high quality healthcare.

I can't speak for these physicians or whoever on row.

17:56
Never heard of them, never met with them.

But you should be able to see your primary care physician or your dietitian, your therapist, and have it covered by insurance a lot easier than what most people in America have to deal with.

Yeah.

18:13
It's it's mixed.

It's all just there's a lot that goes into it and it shouldn't be that complicated, but it is because of just how our healthcare system is.

Yeah.

But anyway, you you get your prescription and then you can like meet with the insurance concierge to figure out insurance stuff if you qualify for that whatever typical like healthcare things around here.

18:37
But then you have to pay $145.00 a month for the ongoing care, which includes like getting the medication and then also ongoing care and support which they say quote You'll have everything you need during treatment, including on demand provider access via video or messaging, medication management and ongoing refill support.

18:59
And they specifically mentioned like 24/7 access to doctors, coaches and nurses.

No mention of a therapist or a dietitian, of course.

Just.

Get that Ozempic and do your thing.

Mm hmm.

19:17
I won't know that one.

Somewhere on their website I wrote down they state that out of pocket can be 900 to $1600 a month.

That's like rent to some people, yeah.

19:35
That's wild.

I'm not surprised.

No, not at all.

But then like on top of your $145.00 per month fees for receiving it and care, you're also paying.

19:51
Like I'm going to assume at least 1000.

I'm I'm assuming they're low volume, like how rare I feel like it's going to be rare.

You're on the 900 side compared to 1600, but right that is.

Hold on.

Why did I not even calculate this?

I must.

20:07
You love numbers.

What are you doing?

I must be sick.

Oh my gosh.

Hold on.

Stand by.

Yeah.

What is this per year?

Is that what you're doing?

Yeah, it's either 10,800 to up to $19,200.

20:25
And that's just this part of your health.

Like what about all your other healthcare needs?

And that's putting one medication.

Right.

And like what about, I see so often these meds getting prescribed like with a nausea medication because they cause nausea in so many people.

20:44
So like what about all the possible side effects and long term outcomes of taking these meds?

What's that going to cost ya?

Saying that number makes me want to be sick.

Yeah.

It's and like even the vibes of the website, like they don't sound super confident it's going to get covered by insurance.

21:07
It's like it is.

So they're like some people get covered, but prepare yourself that you might have to pay out of pocket and it's going to be at least $1000.

Well yeah, it is at least $1000 because 145 plus at least a 900.

21:26
So at least $1000 a month, yeah.

Well good thing they have those insurance concierge concierges to see what what they can do for you.

This is why the diet industry is a multi billion dollar industry.

21:46
Let's talk about the different meds, OK?

I don't know them, so Hannah will be taking the brains here.

Hannah's our resident weight loss Med slash surgery knowledge.

Aficionado, I'm not proud of it, but unfortunately I do have.

22:05
We got to use what background you have to our advantage.

Yes, that's right.

So obviously I'm not a doctor or a person who prescribed, prescribed these medications, but I have seen lots of patients take these and I've looked into them a whole lot.

So I already mentioned in the beginning that it looks like they're prescribing Ozempic.

22:23
Wilcovie and Zep Bound are their main name brands and we did do a whole episode on Ozempic and what it is and how it compares to the others a while back.

So we'll link that below if you want to hear more about like more in detail about all these different things and like side effects and long term and all that.

22:44
But quick recap though, so Ozempic and Wilcovie are under the class of semaglutides and I mentioned earlier too that Ozempic is prescribed off label for weight loss.

It's usually a diabetes medication.

22:59
So it's still not FDA approved for weight loss at this time.

So it looks like the physicians on Roe are prescribing it off label.

Well, Govi has hit the scene, has been around for a while, also a semaglutide, same thing as Ozempic, just a different dose and it is FDA approved for weight loss.

23:17
So again, I'm kind of confused why they're prescribing both.

Don't quite get that when it's a whole weight loss program, I guess you can call it whatever they do.

Also prescribe the zetbamge is a tirzepatide.

You may have heard of Manjaro before as well, which like I said earlier too is also a tirzepatide.

23:38
But Manjaro is not FDA approved for weight loss which is why I was so confused about the whole ozempic being prescribed off label but not Monjaro cause Monjaro For a while before Zep bound came around, Monjaro was prescribed for weight loss off label by like lots of doctors ones that I've seen personally prescribe.

23:59
So kind of confused about that.

But the difference between semaglutide and tirzepatide, semaglutide, they're both GLP one medications you may have heard of like GLP one being like the main class of these and they both fall under that.

The big difference is that semaglutide is just a GL, P1 receptor agonist, which means that it mimics the GLP 1 hormone and makes you feel less hungry and like slows digestion.

24:24
Tirzepatide or is that bound in Manjaro, is also that a GL P1, but it also is a GIPA glucose dependent insulin, atropic polypeptide hormone.

So basically you get like a 2 for one deal basically with tirzepatide and that's why they say it is more effective for weight loss.

24:45
I've seen some like call it a weight loss boost compared to the semaglutide AKA OS and pick and book OV.

But the big thing is like it all depends on dose of medication because there's like different tiers and levels of all of these.

Usually the doctor will start you at a low dose, see how you react and then kind of like build up and then eventually build back down once you get your BMI below whatever the qualifying BMI is.

25:08
And then of course too like whatever behavior changes you make also is going to play a role in how effective these are.

So it's really hard to say if like the tirzepatide being both the GLP one and GIP actually is more effective because of all those other factors that play a role which we discussed before both in our Oprah episode and also in the in the Olympic episode.

25:28
Like we can't really say how effective these are in the long term, especially because we don't have a lot of research in the long term effects of these.

But also because it seems actually they always do recommend like making diet behavior changes while taking these.

25:45
And so these basically just help you to make those diet changes a little bit easier by suppressing your appetite.

Both of them have that similar outcome.

That was a fun science lesson.

Oh my gosh.

I feel like I just like, I don't know, like gave a professional presentation and there's like a pharmacist or something.

26:03
My God.

Not going to say maybe not the most fun context, but it's always fun to return to our roots a little bit.

That's right.

So we've mentioned before too, the side effects of all of these.

I mean, there's some that are pretty mild you get with a lot of different medications like nausea, vomiting.

26:22
A lot of times they do tend to be very GI related because of just like how they're interacting with your digestive system.

There are some more severe ones that we mentioned before too in the Ozempic episode about the FDA box warning for GLP ones and how they might be associated with thyroid cancer, that tends to be like the most severe, like red flag that's waved about all of this.

26:46
Roe does mention that this risk has only been shown in rodents and the risk in humans is not determined yet.

I think once again, it has to do with just like this not being used in the long term.

So we can't really say for sure what's happening, but that's a pretty severe one obviously.

27:04
Also they mentioned like suicidal thoughts and behaviors, kidney disease, developing allergies obviously with any medication really.

So it can be as as like mild as just like some stomach like being upset, some nausea, vomiting or it can be as severe as thyroid cancer, suicidal thoughts, things like that.

27:27
So a lot of risk involved a.

Wide array of what might happen and like.

Like you said, there's limited research from a long term standpoint, specifically when this is being used for a weight loss.

For weight loss purposes, we don't really know what'll happen in 10/15/20 years.

27:51
Exactly, 'cause, like I forget when was Zep bound?

Zep Bound is like new new Zep Bound discovery.

What do I put to Google?

Why do I?

I'm imagining like we're out like on a boat, and like the scientists are like going through the forest.

28:12
I see subsetband over there Yonder.

Those chemicals we can mix together.

OK, I found it.

So the FDA approves that found as a weight loss management treatment in November of 2023, so very new.

That's new.

That's like, yeah, seven months ago.

28:31
So Manjaro is not quite as new and that's the one that's the same class but for diabetes, type 2 diabetes, that was in 2022, Manjaro was found, but.

I just like really second guessed my math.

28:46
I was like, ignore me, I was like September's the 9th month of the year 3 + 4 for April 7th.

Yes, for a second, I was like, is it the 7th month of the year, November.

Oh, November.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

So less than six months.

29:02
OK, I heard you wrong, so that's what I'm gonna give you for my Matt.

So wow, we are on top of this.

I know.

So how do we even know what it does exactly?

Barely FDA approved.

And it's not even like, Oh my gosh.

29:19
Which I'm not exactly sure of like the FDA approval process and like how long a test for to like for it to like be able to be approved.

So it's been around for a while, it just hasn't been prescribed yet, but still it's only been FDA approved for six months, less than six months.

So how the heck do we know what's happening in someone who takes set bound for two years and then how they're being affected 20 years later?

29:45
Who knows?

We don't, and it's a risk you take.

And like these are meant to be taken like the zip on in Wagovi which are FDA approved for weight loss are meant to be taken until you are no longer in the classification of overweight and obese.

30:03
But as we talked about so many times before, it's so difficult to maintain intentional weight loss.

And so what's happening a lot of times is maybe you're taking, let's say, Wigovi.

You lose weight, you get out of the obese category, you stop taking it because you were not able to establish long term behavior changes during your Wigovi era.

30:26
You gain weight again and so you go back to your doctor and then you start Zep bound.

So like, people are like doing different medications back-to-back and being on them for long periods of time because the weight loss is so frequently not sustained and not at fault to the patient.

30:42
Of course, like, it's just how weight loss works.

Our body fights back against it.

That's a big thing too.

Like, we just can't know, like, what's going to happen in your individual case, if you are someone who's taking like different medications, different dosages, you're off of it for a while and then you restart it.

30:59
There's just like so many scenarios that really can't be tested by like in the research.

And so we just have like so much risk there that comes with all that unknown.

There are a lot of factors in play that.

Yeah.

Are are out of our control often times and especially when it comes to weight loss, like your body doesn't want your body fights against it.

31:24
And now that we're adding like medication, it becomes even more like intense and severe potentially.

Like what could happen exactly.

I'm sure we'll in 10 years check in with us.

Well, I'm sure we'll hear more about it then.

31:42
We'll probably be on Golo's marketing team by then, like we talked about before, so it may not be the best source of information in the anti diet space.

We'll see where time takes us.

Yeah, we'll see how we're doing too.

Yeah.

Let's talk about this dietitian you found.

32:00
This was.

Exciting.

Here's what I did.

I typed into Google Row weight loss dietitian and I found one person named Lauren.

Yes, Miss Lauren Harris Pincus.

I knew.

You would do that.

I did a there.

32:16
I was like, you have the clinical background for the specific like mechanisms of the medications.

I have the creepy FBI level stalking Internet skills on our hands.

32:31
Which is why this is a great podcast.

We we cover all of it.

From the intense clinical to the creepy online world, we have it.

We got you covered.

She's listed as a dietitian advisor on Rose website.

32:49
And I will note the description provided doesn't really tell you anything about what she does.

It just tells you her background and the background on the website is almost like copy and paste to a lot of her LinkedIn bio.

So I'm like, ah, so she just sent them this and they're like, OK, this looks, this looks good, but we don't really know what she does.

33:12
Like I She doesn't list Roe at all on LinkedIn.

That's weird, she.

She's had a private practice for I think at least 20 years now and she's been a communication dietitian for 10 years.

So like or a media dietitian I think for like 10 years which but the.

33:34
Like my first thought when I saw that quote on like her row page was that maybe she like writes the blogs.

I didn't go through all the blogs obviously, because there was like 30 pages of them, but the like 10:15 I did sift through the dietitian was not the author of the blog posts, so she's not even doing that I don't think.

33:55
At least not anymore.

Yeah, or like signing off on them.

Like, no, it was an MD.

That was like medically approving them, usually, which another red flag, but whatever.

Interesting.

So it was like.

Written like the few I looked through, like one was like is rice healthy for weight loss.

34:12
It was written by some random person who in their description like their bio.

She has a passion for yoga and health and fitness and stuff, but she's not a dietitian or anything.

And then it said like medically approved or edited by some ND.

34:29
So what is she contributing?

I'm like, maybe she's the ambassador.

She just goes and like, talks about.

Maybe she's running the commercials.

She's I.

Don't know were the commercials very anti diety?

Do they like, play in that at all that you can?

34:45
Remember all I remember is they kept shouting like GLP one.

Sorry, I'm like OK, I whatever.

You sound scientific OK but like no it was not anti diet at all.

It was very much like get your weight loss Med now and then they just like show like zoom in and out so like the syringes.

35:08
And I'm like this is a weird commercial one.

I wasn't sold on it, but I was merely like solely annoyed because of how often it was coming up.

So maybe they're just like, maybe that's what their goal is, to just show up so much that people are like, what is this event and then they look at.

35:30
It worked for us.

We got a positive.

I don't know.

Yeah, I will know something interesting from her bio.

Directly quote from her.

She had like a four paragraph bio.

I'm like, Oh my gosh, should I have a four paragraph bio?

I think mine's one, but in it, she says after or in third person, she states After growing up with obesity, Lauren dedicates herself to combating the growing childhood obesity epidemic and has worked closely with school districts to improve the nutritional quality of lunch menus and nutrition and fitness related policies.

36:08
That was the only mention of weight loss, really.

Interesting.

Such a like schools.

Such a mystery.

Who are you?

Lauren Harris Pincus.

I'm like, is she just a face?

I was like, does she know?

36:24
She's on their website, right?

Or they're like, take her LinkedIn and like, put it on there so they had at least one dietician.

People like us wouldn't be so mad.

We sent her an e-mail.

So she's our advisor now.

Yeah, we sent her Adm.

36:40
She didn't respond, but she was.

We sought advice from her.

Interesting.

I don't know.

I'm it's just weird to me that there's no mention of it.

Like isn't even like freelance or like like in the media section there was no mention of like working with like weight loss companies or advising.

37:04
It was very media focused and she has her part of practice.

But I'm like, I don't know.

Let me look her up again.

My first thought was the blogs, but she didn't seem to be in at least the more recent ones.

No, I don't know her.

37:23
Who are you, Lauren Gray Pinkets.

Let me go to the very end of the.

Ball.

I'll also note she she's a part of a million.

This is like, so neish, you guys don't care about this, but she's part of a million of DP GS with the Academy, so those are dissect practice groups and she's part of the Sports nutrition one and she's friends with Lauren Link on LinkedIn.

37:46
Where she is.

Well, they're a mutual connection and I have 67 mutual connections with her.

What?

And a lot of them are.

Granted, I have like a million LinkedIn connections.

I just friend anyone I want.

So I would not call consider any of them close colleagues.

38:04
Oh my gosh.

But most of them are sports dietitians, which is even more interesting to me.

The plot thickens.

I'm so confused.

The reason I was freaking out is I was looking at some of the blogs and they've looked a little snippet that says fad diet stop here.

38:25
So they're in it.

They're in the anti diet language.

OK, we should have assumed they they weren't as clear about it though.

No.

And then like you click on it and it says why?

Are you looking to lose weight?

To improve your health, feel more confident, Improve quality of life, or all of the above.

38:41
Wow.

She started her private practice when we were born.

Really.

She looked that old when I saw her picture.

Dang.

I will note part of her private practice is potentially giving like healthy menu consultations to organizations or individual and group counseling or quote UN quote speaking engagements, whatever that means.

39:09
I'm wondering if maybe she like recorded does like webinars or?

Yeah.

There's no way.

There's no way she is the sole dietitian for Roe.

For this big company and I just googled 2 like when they were founded.

Roe was founded in 2017, so it really isn't even that old.

39:27
So I don't know.

They probably, like, utilized her for one tiny media thing.

And then they were like, we have a dietitian now let's put it on our website.

Put her on the page.

Exactly.

This is so interesting, though she's a mystery.

Should I friend her?

39:43
Yes, I'll friend.

Apparently you're Willy nilly and just make friends with anybody on LinkedIn.

It's true.

There we go.

Maybe we'll be able to learn more about her.

We'll report back if we hear any new information about Lauren Harris Pincus.

39:59
I have I have over 1000 connections so she shouldn't be suspicious of me unless she deep dives into it and then she's like, oh, she has a podcast.

What are they talking about?

Oh, they're talking about this company I'm an advisor for.

40:17
No.

I don't know if she has the same level of need to stock online.

It's just us.

What do they say?

Like people don't talk bad about you unless they're below you.

40:36
That's the basic terms of our podcast.

Is we talk, we are below everyone.

No one cares about us, but we are just yapping away about everyone else.

Fan behavior?

Yeah.

Well, on that note, thanks for listening guys.

40:55
Yeah, thanks for listening.

I feel like this is the future.

It's going to be like accessible weight loss medications programs or accessible is not even, it's not even accessible.

41:10
It's probably going to be $1000 a month.

Like, let's be real.

Insurance is already a pain as is, and now we're throwing in this like.

Well what's funny too is like it says on the wogovi like it says like which meds they have.

The wogovi literally says supply shortage I saw.

41:29
I saw so it's not even more accessible.

They're all like, we can get you this medication, but then it says right there, supply shortage.

Like, how are we supposed to get our wogovi bro?

So like what's the difference between row weight loss and like going to my primary care physician and getting it through them?

41:48
I would say sometimes primary care physicians are hard to see that's true.

They book, they book out so far.

So this might be better.

Which is why I was saying earlier, the whole accessibility issue needs to be considered for like access to your actual physician instead of.

Just, yeah.

42:08
Well that's our bottom line guys.

We're we have mixed thoughts.

This is just funding the multi billion dollar diet industry.

Oprah's probably an investor in in this.

Oprah's probably an an advisor.

42:24
Yeah, and then?

Her Lauren tight.

We will update you guys if we find anything out about Lauren in the time being.

We have our Ozempic episode, we have our Oprah Weight Loss special episode, which was very juicy.

42:42
And if you listen to everything and you're like, we want Happy and Emily Hannah, go listen to our exclusive content, 'cause we're normally much happier over there, 'cause we're not talking about diet culture.

It's crazy how that works.

42:58
It's like what I've been saying lately, like the more self help books I try to read, the more anxious I feel, the more I just like mess around and read.

Like my silly little fantasies.

Romance novels, that actually helps.

43:16
That's.

It's crazy that us talking about diet culture just makes us more angry and stressed and just want to like goof around.

And we can do that on the beat.

Deets subscription bonus question segment.

43:32
Where we also over share as way too much.

It's great.

OK, see.

You over there?

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