Episode 117: Reacting to Old Episodes: Ep. 2 RD vs. Nutritionist


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Episode Description

In this episode of The Up-Beet Dietitians podcast, Emily and Hannah react to one of their first podcast episodes they EVER made.. And try not to cringe too much. Join Emily and Hannah as they reflect on how their nutrition viewpoints have changed over the past 2.5 years and what feedback they’d give to their past selves. Tune in for laughs, cringes, and some great convos on personal growth and how it’s okay to change your mind (we love critical thinking!).

Time Stamps from Episode 2:

  • How to Spell Dietitian: 1:45-2:45

  • Our Thoughts on the Master’s Requirement: 4:51-5:18

  • “You Should Want to Lose Weight in a Healthy Way”: 22:30-23:15

  • Thoughts on Celery: 50:50

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    Hello everybody welcome back to a brand new episode of the upbeat dietitians podcast hello everyone we are so excited

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    for today we have never done this before and I'm excited to talk to talk about it

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    because the hard part is over I will explain that in a second but what we're going to be doing is reacting to an old

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    episode of ours we're actually going to react to episode two of our podcast

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    which came out over two years ago which is crazy and it is to this day one of

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    our most popular episodes unfortunately for unfortunately we were such novices

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    but we wanted to react to it Hannah and I went through and listen to it ahead of

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    time so we're gonna but we have some time stamps markdown that we want to

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    react react to together so that's what we're going to be doing today and we're gonna like put the the timestamps on the

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    screen for you guys to watch with us we're not exactly sure editing wise how this will look but I'm hoping we can get

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    like our reactions as we're watching it all together yeah so yeah we'll we'll

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    try to make that work for you guys but we're all going to be cringing together and that's what I want to start with Emily what were your like initial like

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    thoughts and feelings so my first thoughts and feelings were how both of our backgrounds have changed yes and how

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    we're in different places you're in a home and I am no longer at my parents so

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    big upgrades for us right away making moves the video quality obviously was

    1:45

    also a bit different we had and audio and audio was different as well it was

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    very interesting this see us I honestly it was not as bad I think it was because

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    I played it fast so that helped it was like one and a half speed it wasn't as bad as I thought

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    it would be like we still had some good points yeah I was like snaps snaps for

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    that I was like we're not completely all I agree I I texted Emily earlier

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    before we both watched it I was like watch it in 1.5 Speed Pro tip do not watch us at normal speed for this

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    episode at least because you'll want to jump off your roof yeah it's a long and

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    we hadn't quite figured out the like pauses and the Cadence of it was like

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    our first official podcast episode even though we had our intro one but that was we nixed that from the internet do not

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    watch that I'm begging you to not watch episode one of this podcast yeah we've removed

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    that yeah um we were getting we were little baby podcasters why do we look so

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    different like that was two years ago I'm like nervous we're aging por poorly but then I at pictures of us and I'm

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    like I don't think we look like we're aging poorly I think yeah we just looked

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    like we were 12 years old and through college and now maybe we're hitting puberty now I think that's what it is

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    like I think we've had baby faces for a whole life and I feel like once we hit 30 we're g to actually look mature for

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    once so we're getting close that's gonna be crazy imagine looking back at our

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    like reaction then that that will be in a couple years though so you guys will have to wait

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    yeah we'll have to do something big for our for our 30s when we when we reach

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    that yes but what were your first initial thoughts um I I've gotten really used to

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    hearing myself talk obviously like being a content creator for the last few years like that doesn't bother me at all

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    yeah except for like the things that I say and like how I say them I want to

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    say this for later but just like my approach to nutrition and like how I was like obviously thinking about

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    things I was like oh really changed a lot in the last few years but in terms of like just like initial like visual

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    thoughts definitely agree that the video has improved audio has

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    improved editing has improved yes and

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    like I don't I don't know that we look more more or less put together I feel

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    like we still dress the same and everything say I don't I honestly feel like I don't know about you but I like

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    intentionally dress nicer at the start and I know that has declined for me for

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    sure yeah today is a bit of an off situation because I was doing YouTube videos today and I usually get a little

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    bit dressier up for those but normally as you guys know if you watch us on YouTube I'm not doing much much special

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    to get ready for the podcast no if we did Audio Only I would

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    I would not care at all I me neither no but that's okay well one other thing I

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    noticed from the very beginning Emily you weren't a dietitian yet when we record this episode I forgot about that

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    yeah I hadn't gone through the terrible time of the exam yet I was just studying

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    for it which which equally is bad and you were probably like interviewing and

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    stuff too right for jobs yeah I think we started it I I had graduated after we started or before we

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    started it so I wasn't in school luckily but it was like the annoying like studying for the exam applying for

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    jobs yeah and I was in my 40 hour a week

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    brand new job is that your first year were you in your first year of

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    it yes yes yes yes this came out April

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    2021 oh then no I was I was in I was a whole year in just about because I

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    started in May oh dang okay oh wow yeah I I I always forget that I graduated so

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    much sooner than you because you did the Masters yeah I really got a tease at how

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    long it's been when I mentioned at some point how I was 23 and I was like oh

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    God I still feel like I'm I think I'm gonna be 23 for a while in my head

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    I think I've been 22 that's where I've kind of settled in and I just decided

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    that is my permanent age I could see that and that makes sense because you're almost a year younger than me like

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    nineish months and then like the pandemic time doesn't count we just stay the same age because we didn't have

    6:47

    anything to interact with and mature from oh we matured we aged that's for

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    sure but in a negative way see besides the uh this distress of the world yeah

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    for us to reflect on I think that's a big part of what shapes our professional thoughts and

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    everything too which I think is a great go yeah we get into it let's let's do it

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    they play the first clip yes yes okay and actually going off of that one of

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    the biggest pet piece with dieticians is how you spell it so put it on record

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    just how you dietitian is Diet D IE t i t i a n and going into college I had no

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    idea that was actually how you spell it I realized that L my college application really have to like spell it

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    out for e t i c i a an which is a big no no you do not do that in the dietex

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    community and also just in general because that wasn't really the spelling

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    was very well I know Microsoft Word microft word I had no idea in one of our

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    Tas in our first classes really let us all have it because a lot of us spelled

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    it the incorrect way in some of our assignments which was pretty funny to look back on but we have at me like

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    cheering you on Le our lesson since then have not spelled incorrect

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    that's I just think it's so funny like I know the whole point of episode two was to like talk about what is a dietitian

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    what scope of practice but I just thought it was so funny how at this time our profession like that was a huge

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    concern for us when we were little baby diti it's like how do we spell it like that has to be correct and like it's not

    8:42

    like it was like a quick thing it was like we spent like at least four minutes talking about how to spell diation and

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    that's what we started off with it wasn't like we were like oh Even our education we didn't talk just were like

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    this is how you spell it I will note I still get a little bit of a Happyness

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    like spark when like like my work my office spells it correctly but in some

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    hospitals they do not spill it correctly so that does make me happy it

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    it helps for sure but I feel like at this point we have so much else to be worried about and stressing about I'm

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    like I don't know if that's the first thing I'd but see each their own I think

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    it's more about like advocacy and getting diversity in our field I think I think we're at that point now where

    9:34

    those things matter a little bit more yeah at least we can look we're like hey we weren't

    9:40

    wrong right and I I still agree with them I agree with old Hannah and Emily in that way I just think it's so cute

    9:47

    how that was that needed to be pointed out the first

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    thing oh my gosh yeah should we go on to the next

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    one let's talk about the next one because I yeah I

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    um and also with the new 2024 requirement where in order to sit

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    with for the Rd exam people will have to have at least a master's which is really interesting so

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    I'll be interested to see how these guidelines actually change over the next three years because a bachelor's degree

    10:27

    will not be enough to amam but we can go over what the requirements are now as

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    they are we can do a refresher maybe in three years oh there we go see about

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    what we think of the changes see how like programs will change and such so

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    option one is basically the most simple straightforward route crazy that we're

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    about mine the main thing was our thoughts on the Master's

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    requirement I feel like our opinions have

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    changed not maybe not dramatically but like it's more

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    cemented yeah I feel like we're more open to it then it's like okay like it is what it is we're going to be

    11:16

    dietitians finally and it's going to be it it's definitely well worth it to get a masters because we're the

    11:22

    professionals but now that we're in it it's like no like there's we have no there's

    11:29

    no business for the Academy to be requiring this master's degree when that we get nothing extra out of

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    it and like maybe we would have felt more strongly if it affected us because we

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    were getting grandfathered in but like looking at it now it's just another

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    barrier to the field like there's already enough barriers as is and this is just adding an additional one where

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    like now there's more money you have to spend on education in more time you have to go without getting paid full-time and

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    not even like a competitive salary in this day and age and having a master's doesn't even

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    like right now it doesn't even give you like enough of an argument

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    the statistics have shown that dieticians with the Masters make more without who don't have a masters it's

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    like maybe I think1 or2 dollar more I've seen on an hourly salale

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    which is like nothing and that depends on amount of like time and money yeah

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    like some workplaces that I'm familiar with um there is no difference in pay

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    like people can have a master's degree and their peer will make the same as them who doesn't have one yeah so

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    frustrating yeah I'm not a fan of the Masters say I'm more closed-minded to it

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    than I was two plus years ago even though I have a masters and like literally I

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    could do the same exact quality of a job with well you can get your Masters in

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    literally anything you can get it in like animal science if you wanted to and like that would qualify you to sit for

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    the Rd exam yeah so it's it's just like an additional like education you're tacking

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    on when a lot of I know like a lot of other healthc Care Professionals have leaning been leaning towards that but

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    like it doesn't like like Hannah said you don't have it doesn't even have to be nutrition or anything nutrition

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    related or even Health Care it could be whatever you wanted and but it would

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    count because you have some type of Masters right if it was like part of a

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    program like yours was like I know you don't always love having yours like

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    because it doesn't ever pay off as frequently as we thought it would but if it was like that where it's like part of

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    your internship and clinicals and all of that and like while you're doing that you get your Masters and that was the standard where you actually are learning

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    more nutrition and with a pay increase I could see it being worth it like they do

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    in like other healthc care professions that require a master or higher education but the fact that it can be

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    anything they just want you have a masters is like such a joke yeah so

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    silly so silly okay um the next one has to do

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    with weight loss which know you guys know we've changed

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    our thoughts on this if you've been here since day one first of all we love you and thanks for sticking around you are a

    14:42

    good person you've been through it we thrown some wild things at

    14:49

    you if you've listened to this episode as well as the episode on blogging for

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    dietitians or how to start a podcast in store you deserve

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    compensation yeah okay let's go to the next one and

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    get into the the juicy weight loss stuff yeah so it's not to say that like wanting to lose weight is even a bad

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    thing you can want to lose weight in a healthy way but that's just it you need to do it in a healthy way and that shouldn't be your main goal I always say

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    put it on the back burner like focus on other things before that's kind of your main goal because it's so hard to

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    even like keep your weight loss on a steady track because so many things influence it I mean you eat a high carb

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    or high salt meal and your weight's going to go up like five pounds just because of the water retention so focusing only on that one factor makes

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    it really hard to assess how well you're actually doing I

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    okay I think I have a similar thing I'm thinking but I would

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    say it much differently now I think that's the biggest thing like yeah yeah the way I was wording it

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    was just not quite right and even still I fumble over my words all the time but I feel like I've gotten better at being

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    able to say what I actually want to be saying but I was still like in that little weight loss mindset in my

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    brain I was fresh out of my weight Centric education so that was still like

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    what I was pursuing and educating on and everything and I think now what I would

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    say that's different is it is very understandable to have that desire for

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    weight loss because our society puts thinness on a pedestal and it's true

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    that in many ways having a smaller body comes with lots of privileges it makes your life so much easier and so it makes

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    total sense that people would want to lose weight in an unhealthy restrictive way where it's cutting things out and

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    increasing your risk of disorder and eating and all of that but hey as long as we're thin the process to get there

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    would suck but because you're thin your life actually could improve because of how Society will treat you which sucks

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    and so that is what I talk about now rather than the act of weight loss it's

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    like why do we why do we have that desire to lose weight like where do those beliefs come from why do we want

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    to do this how would life be different if we did lose weight what are we going to gain or lose by dieting it's it's

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    much more about again like getting to the root with people I work with about

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    like where those thoughts and desires come from and helping them dig a little bit deeper about what that would entail

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    and also the possible outcomes of it too because I know I said in the video like you should want to lose weight in a

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    healthy way but like is there really a healthy way to pursue intentional weight loss with all that we know about the

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    potential outcomes of dieting and how it's the biggest indicator of disordered eating and eating

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    disorders again I think where I was going is similar to what my thoughts are

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    now but I was still much more open to the idea of calorie counting and dieting

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    like pursuing intentional weight loss which I'm not so much on that page anymore yeah I think this was an really

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    interesting time for us because we were like unlearning a lot the weight Centric

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    education but also like what we're seeing diet diet culture we were just

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    unlearning that as well as like you were in your di dietician like profession

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    like in a year and then I was like preparing to get into it so not even

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    experiencing it really firsthand but we're GNA talk about this

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    later so I don't want to talk too much about it but I feel like it was more so like we were unlearning like who we were

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    putting our energy into like the people versus the system

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    and it was like very much we were talking more toward the people which we still do for the most part in the

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    podcast but like I don't want to say the blame or like the taking responsibility it was

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    very much we were like placing it on the people when now we've like done a much better job of addressing

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    like like you said where's this coming from diet culture is the problem yeah

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    not your decisions your as and you The Listener

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    exactly your decisions Hannah what you do affects all of us

    19:38

    this podcast is reaching millions and it could be detrimental if they listen to you need to watch what you

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    say but yeah I think it it was an interesting time of growth and where

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    this episode was capturing us we were like kind of like in between the two

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    like trying to appease everyone but still like potentially maybe causing a little bit of harm

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    yeah so honestly happened right I'm sure

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    we'll look back on this one in two years and be like oh wow but I I feel like

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    this weird Middle Ground we were in does sort of progress for probably at least like 20 or 30 episodes before we

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    finally like we're always of course still learning every day but I feel like it took us a while to get to the place

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    where we are now where it's like we feel pretty confirmed on our beliefs on all this stuff and I feel like honestly the

    20:38

    biggest change in that was like experience in the profession and like exposure to the disord eating and eating

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    disorders and the toxic Wellness culture and all those fun things which I just

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    know like right now past me is hating hearing because all I was hearing from

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    like job recruiters was like oh not enough experience now and right now I'm like oh yeah we had more experience so

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    we do more I know it's very valuable but to go back to the episode you're talking

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    about where we talked about experience it definitely can be overemphasized for sure too yes yeah

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    that need for it yeah let's talk about the next one I's more like don't know

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    what this one's more Li I saw your comment and I was like what what does this

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    mean okay okay okay let me get there also can I still say I love our little

    21:36

    beat that has been there since day one I love that for us that's so cute and I

    21:43

    don't think celery juice really harms your body in any way so at least that's

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    good your h a new fun way to hydrate like that's I don't know even tastes good

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    though I feel like it probably wouldn't taste the greatest I controversial opinion but I believe

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    celery is the worst vegetable to exist I agree it's get stuck in your teeth it

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    tastes like bitter it's not good it's only good if you put peanut butter on it and then you put raisins and you have

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    ants on a lock that's that's the best way to eat it it's way celery is yeah

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    celery is not good okay at least we can agree with

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    them on that one yeah they knew what was going on when it comes to celery

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    yeah well that's because I got into a whole thing about like medical medium I forgot how fixated

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    you I have this in my notes for later too but I'll talk about it now like why did I spend so much time in

    22:46

    this episode talking about like model and medical medium and Doctor Phil

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    that wasn't even the point of the episode I forgot about the pinous models conversation till I was watching and I'm

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    like wait what that was like in the outline it wasn't like a tangent like that was what I to talk about that

    23:06

    episode like we need to address the Pinterest

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    models which is fine like I would still talk about that in an episode but like

    23:17

    not in that episode where it's about what's a dietitian we're kind of all over the

    23:23

    place yeah and we still of course as you guys know go on our tangents

    23:28

    yes but that was just normally they're unplanned though that was a plan that was a plan tangent a

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    plent yeah I think we just have one more right

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    yes the cringe Factor hasn't been too extreme it's just I think we've been exposed to it now twice so we're doing

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    okay no and honestly most of the time stamps have been like things I want to like negate so I'm not I didn't really

    23:56

    bring any to late that I agree with so like there was a lot of good things we were saying it was just like like how we

    24:02

    were maybe saying them and like how long we were saying them for could have

    24:08

    definitely been condensed a little bit um this last one I want to say sorry to

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    past Emily because we've talked about being kinder to our younger selves and this was me two years ago and I was not

    24:20

    being nice to her in the outline um but we're gonna that was that

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    was cuz she was ignorant and we're g to talk about I me up until about a year ago I would

    24:34

    have thought the same so okay we'll let you guys know what we're talking about with the

    24:42

    dietician profession is lure so lure also that's a weird word I

    24:48

    do not want to be saying that a lot but I'm going to have to um lure is

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    basically when it and it varies from state to state it's not regulated on a

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    federal level but basically with licensure

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    it's keeping people safe and focusing more on the safety and I

    25:19

    guess appropriateness of care from different individuals I think that's all

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    we needed yeah I feel like you just go on to talk about like what license your is and stuff yeah so well tell the

    25:31

    people why this was why this really upsets me and it would probably

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    disappoint past us so if you haven't watched the episode

    25:43

    watch the episode because we're mostly right about the lens CH just this one part and like it's this LD or the

    25:52

    LDN or LD that you see behind names I've seen more LDN I think is more more

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    regulated is supposed to be like within that state it protects the profession

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    from practicing like Medical Nutrition Therapy and more like intensive

    26:11

    nutrition that you need like professional qualifications for so not

    26:17

    everyone just can go willy-nilly giving out nutrition advice

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    but I have recently found out in the past year year year past probably year

    26:29

    and a half I discovered that having LDN which stands for license dietician

    26:36

    nutritionist different than RD rdn which is registered dietitian or registered dietitian nutritionist having this LDN

    26:44

    does not mean you are a dietitian which is interesting because it is regulated

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    on a state level it has the word dietician in it so you would think and

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    that's like a protected like uh protective uh I don't

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    want to say license but it's like yeah it's a protected title like no one can call them like a dietician unless you're

    27:09

    a dietician right you can call yourself a nutritionist all you want but it says

    27:15

    LDN licensed dietitian nutritionist and I have come to found that found I've

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    come to found out come to find out come to find out that there are other

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    certifications you can receive that do not have comparable

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    education to dieticians that can put LDN behind their

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    name and Illinois has the strictest lure

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    regulation and I have deep dived into our lure qualifications through like the

    27:53

    government sites and all those things like Illinois's Department of Federal

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    Regulation and professional or federal and pro Professional Regulation the the

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    main website and whatnot and in one of the strictest St states with lure non

    28:11

    dieticians can put ldm behind their name it so it's insane I've literally

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    like filed complaints to the state about this

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    and there's just like no no one can say why they're like

    28:30

    oh we're protecting the dietitians but these people have certifications so like

    28:35

    if you see LDN this is just a heads up it does not mean they're dietician it does not guarantee they're dietician I

    28:41

    would just look for Rd or rdn that's all I would look for because that is 100%

    28:48

    protected you know what's making me laugh right now as mading as this is this is the exact same energy we're

    28:54

    bringing as we did with the c in the dietician

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    we've just changed changed focuses Chang what we're upset about yes the thing is

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    like if this wasn't so fresh in my life

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    I probably wouldn't care as much but this has affected me over the past year it really it's bad it's bad yeah when

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    like the name dietician and we don't even get to have that to ourselves and like literally it was pre

    29:27

    to us how much you should Advocate with your local government uh figures and or

    29:34

    your local government like politicians and like Go lobby and like make sure

    29:40

    your licensure is protected when it's not even protecting dietitians like

    29:45

    people who aren't dietitians can put this around like there is some qualification to it but like it's not

    29:50

    just dieticians have a different name like just be a nutritionist and have your own

    29:57

    thing put Ln yeah and let us have LD just this one

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    thing is all we're asking for we just want to have MNT and LDN can we please just have those two things

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    yeah it's the principle of the at this point at this point I have I've accepted

    30:16

    that everyone is going to be nutrition experts and everyone's going to do my job so now it's like can the academy

    30:23

    just like step up and like help us out a little bit and melee do something at

    30:28

    least give us what we actually are the only person that's allowed to do and

    30:34

    that it's like MN and apparently have the credentials LDN Apparently that is a shared

    30:40

    credential and I will bring up because we always we don't always have to I actually rarely do play Devil's Advocate

    30:48

    because I just sometimes don't care to hear it when I'm like no that's dumb so you might be

    30:53

    asking what if these other people who have other certification s are qualified

    30:59

    to do MNT like Medical Nutrition or Practice Medical Nutrition Therapy I

    31:04

    have work directly with Mone people with these other

    31:11

    credentials and a wide array of types of

    31:16

    like nutrition intensity that they needed like with what the person had going on and their education is

    31:24

    different it's I know this is something I brought up later where I was like we're a little

    31:31

    bit snoody and I'm being a little bit snoody right now but and I will admit that I am but when

    31:39

    it came up to it where like the cases I was seeing it was like dangerous they

    31:46

    should not have been seeing patients I was literally like alarmed and shocked

    31:51

    and thinking about bringing it up to like my supervisor I'm like oh what are they doing like you should should not be

    31:58

    doing this this is like you should not be treating this chronic condition this way or recommending these things like

    32:03

    that can be very harmful to them and I would talk to them they're like no that's not what I learned or like I

    32:10

    never it wasn't that they said that's not what they learn they told me they did not learn

    32:16

    that I was like it's almost like there is one

    32:22

    profession that goes to school just for nutrition and we should be the ones to

    32:29

    be the Professionals of nutrition yeah it's crazy not much has changed

    32:37

    since years ago still a little bit sightful um just about different things

    32:44

    different things yeah but yeah going into our overall noes we've really alluded to this already but I feel like for me

    32:51

    personally I was very judgy in that episode and I still am very judgy that's just I'm always going to be a judgy

    32:58

    person but like we said earlier the judgy was like towards the Dieter and

    33:04

    not towards diet culture which was the real problem I feel like obviously then we knew that diet culture sucks and we

    33:11

    were haters of it and everything but we weren't putting like the majority of the blame there when we should have been and

    33:18

    we definitely do now and it's we're much more understanding of like why people make the choices that they do like why

    33:24

    they want to lose weight why they go on these diets why they believe everything they see from Bobby ficity we we know that those things

    33:33

    are happening because of diet culture and modness culture so the judging us has shifted to that

    33:40

    instead yeah it's easier to blame a like

    33:46

    person you can like see or like conceptualize versus like a system

    33:52

    system yeah I think my biggest reflection was

    33:57

    we were very confident with a lot of our statement with like good for us I'm glad

    34:04

    we had that confidence that fresh um out of school but there was sometimes we

    34:10

    just like made statements about nutrition or health and then proceeded to say nothing to like

    34:16

    back and I was like oh man that's something we've got a

    34:22

    little bit better at yes we would just like say things and like just as assume people like knew that's true

    34:31

    which if you guys were tuning in I'm going to assume that's you wanted to learn you didn't just know things we

    34:37

    were saying um so that's something we can continue to work on and I don't think we

    34:44

    do that as much compared to that episode yeah but the other thing was I think feel

    34:51

    like we're a little bit snoody I'm I'm still snoody like very snoody but but I've tried to calm it

    34:59

    down a little bit I try to direct my anger now at the diet industry and the

    35:05

    academy that's who gets all my energy and they just yes constantly get it it's

    35:12

    a little less satisfying because they don't care diet cult that is that is the

    35:18

    unfortunate part we don't get the reaction yeah but that's it's okay we're doing the right

    35:23

    thing yeah we get the saction from that knowing that we have grown and we are better professionals yes that that is

    35:32

    important personal growth well cool we cringed you guys

    35:40

    probably cringed if you guys like this we have a handful of other episodes that we

    35:47

    would we have we have actually the need to restate some things so if you guys

    35:54

    like this kind of content let us know we can definitely revisit visit some other episodes yeah probably for the best for

    36:02

    the best and we'll revisit this one probably in two years like I said so we'll just keep growing together it'll

    36:08

    be great it'll be great thanks for listening guys we appreciate it thanks

    36:16

    for sticking around if you've been here since day one but also thanks for chiming in now because you've probably

    36:21

    saved yourself a lot of pain and time um we're just glad you're here and and

    36:27

    we'll see you next week for more and if you want to hear more from us today

    36:32

    we're going to be talking about I don't know poptarts and toaster strudles spoiler which one is the better option

    36:40

    and why so go check out our bonus question become a part of the beat deeds

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    36:59

    thanks for tuning in we'll see you next week


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