Episode 116: Perfectionism & Disordered Eating: Are they Connected? w/ Alana Van Der Sluys
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In this episode of The Up-Beet Dietitians podcast, Emily and Hannah are joined by Alana Van Der Sluys. Alana breaks down how perfectionism and leading a perfect-esque life could potentially be connected to disordered eating risk. She provides examples of a perfectionist and how they may translate into disordered eating as well. Alana leaves the listeners with some words of advice if they find themselves struggling with this.
Alana Van Der Sluys is a TedX speaker, entrepreneur, author, and Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor. As a personal survivor of eating disorders, she is dedicated to empowering women to heal their relationship with food and their bodies to step into their potential, take up space, and improve their lives through intuitive eating and mindset coaching. Her debut book, Freedom with Food and Fitness: How Intuitive Eating is the Key to Becoming Your Happiest, Happiest Self, releases on November 7, 2023 with Urano World USA, Inc. She is a contributing writer for several national publications, including the National Eating Disorder Information Centre (NEDIC) and Best Holistic Life Magazine.
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Hello everybody welcome back to a brand
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new episode of the upbe dieticians
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podcast we have a brand new guest today
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we are joined for this episode um by
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Alana Vanderloo who is a tedec speaker
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entrepreneur author and certified
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intuitive eating counselor as a personal
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Survivor of eating disorders she is
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dedicated to empowering women to heal
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their relationship with food and their
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bodies to step into their potential take
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up space and improve their lives through
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intuitive eating and mindset
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coaching her debut book Freedom with
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food and fitness how intuitive eating is
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the key to becoming your happiest
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happiest self releases on November 7th
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2023 she's a contributing writer for
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several National Publications including
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the national Ean disorder information
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center Center and best holistic Life
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Magazine we're so excited for you to
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listen to this episode
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enjoy hello Alana welcome to the up
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dieticians Podcast we're so excited to
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have you here I'm excited to be here
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Hannah Emily I'm I'm I'm pumped I can't
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wait to dive in I feel like this will be
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such a good episode anyone who's seen
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the title already knows the spoiler but
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we're going to be talking about kind of
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the connection and relationship between
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perfectionism and disordered eating
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development something Alana is very
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passionate about and we're very excited
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to talk about because we don't we
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haven't really talked about
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perfectionism ever on the podcast so
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this will be a very good episode for
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people to listen to and something that
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people might not realize there could be
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a connection between so before we get
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into the nitty-gritty of it though Alana
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tell us about
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yourself this can be like what you do
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for work your past education background
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Hobbies where you live anything that you
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feel is relevant to okay I'll give a
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good smattering of of of all of that so
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my name is Alana vandero and I'm the
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founder of Freedom with food and fitness
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which is h a community where I offer
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group in one-on-one coaching for
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intuitive eating and body image and
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we'll dive I'm sure way deeper into this
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than I'm going to do right now but I
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came to this work the way a lot of us do
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uh I had a seven-year battle with
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undiagnosed eating disorder so they went
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completely under the radar the entire
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time with everybody that I knew my
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doctors my loved ones um I had
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orthorexia which means I had an
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obsession with clean eating quote
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unquote clean eating uh I had binge
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eating disorder where I would restrict
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or you know eat clean Monday through
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Friday and then have my cheats on the
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weekend which just riddled me with shame
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and guilt and and then I also had body
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dysmorphic disorder where you know no
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matter how many crunches I did no matter
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how little I ate no matter how little I
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weighed my stomach would still didn't
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look the way that I wanted it to and it
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was like a point of contention for me so
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um that's how I came to this work this
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is actually my side business I'm a
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full-time English and journalism
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teacher um I have a toddler who is three
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at the time of this recording or he will
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be in two weeks I live in New Jersey I
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love to read to write I have a book
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coming out at the end of the year which
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is like a goal I've had since I was 10
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and uh I guess another fun fact is I
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love stranger things I'm like obsessed
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with that
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show Emily aren't you into stranger
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things I a very big Str things fan huge
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it's such a good show is it is it kind
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of scary that's what's kind of holding
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me back because I don't like scary stuff
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it is I think it's kind of scary yeah
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it's very 80s I don't I don't know how
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old you guys are but like I grew up in
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the 80s so it's very cool that could
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help because I feel like not to Trash
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Talk the ' 80s but I feel like the newer
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scary movies are kind of more scary I
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don't know if that is true but that's
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how I feel um so I don't know if I could
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handle it but anyway let's get into what
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people are actually here for today so
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again we're talking all about
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perfectionism and disordered
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eatingeating disorders um but let's
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start with like what even is
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perfectionism for those who maybe like
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aren't quite sure if they fit the bill
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kind of like run us through what that
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actually means like what is
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perfectionism so it can mean a couple of
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different
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things I think you're right in that
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people sometimes don't identify as a
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perfectionist because they don't feel
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like they do anything perfectly but
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that's really not what it is what it
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really is is we can call it black or
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black and white thinking or we can call
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it all or nothing thinking and that's
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typically how people describe it when it
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comes to things like disordered eating
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and chronic dieting I think bernee Brown
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had it the best um for those of you who
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live under a rock she's she's a a
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researcher on vulnerability and um I'm
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going to I'm going to quote her she
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calls perfectionism a self-destructive
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and addictive belief system that fuels
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this primary thought if I look perfect
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and do everything perfectly I can avoid
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or minimize the painful feelings of
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Shame lame and judgment and there are a
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couple of different types of
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perfectionism and I go over this in my
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book in detail because again this is
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something that was the Catalyst for my
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Eating Disorders do you guys want me to
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go into the different types now or do
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you want me to wait on it please go for
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it we'd love to hear it okay cool so um
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there are three different types so
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there's socially prescribed
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perfectionism which is a like a
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crippling fear of criticism basically
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the belief if someone isn't their best
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they they'll be rejected by those around
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them including their loved one so this
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can lead to procrastination because they
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fear they're going to do something wrong
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so it's like you know writing the book
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and not sending it to Publishers ever
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because it's not perfect enough or like
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even writing an Instagram post but not
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posting it because it just doesn't look
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perfect enough then other oriented
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perfectionists put impossibly high
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standards on other people instead of
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themselves instead of being themselves
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up and criticizing themselves they're
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perfectionist when it comes to other
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people's actions and behaviors and then
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there's self-oriented perfectionists who
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place really high standards ons
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um but they actually achieve their goals
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so they're not the type to like never
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put it out there in the universe because
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it's never good enough they hold
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themselves to the same really high
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standards and they do achieve things
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they might even be called high Achievers
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but it's never good enough for them no
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matter what they do no matter what they
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accomplish it's never ever good enough
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and I fall into the latter category or
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at least I did and I'm slowly pulling
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myself out of it but I'm a self-oriented
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perfectionist where I have really high
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standards for myself um and I achieve a
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lot of wonderful things but it's like
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never good enough H Emily and I both
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have this tendency on our podcast to
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like we call it like our therapy
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sessions which we should be seeing real
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therapists I think instead but I'm like
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right now doing that exactly that where
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I'm like kind of self-reflecting I'm
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like I think I definitely agree with the
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last one for myself as well it's
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like you can like work and work and work
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and work and work but it's still just
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like never good enough you can like even
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get all this praise and it's still just
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like never good enough to yourself it's
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kind of crazy yeah
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good to reflect on yes H our mini we
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already hit the mini therapy session
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which is good we today yes we love
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that so I I think like these are all
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really good examples because I think
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perfectionism at least when I like first
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think of it you think of like one
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specific like idea of what a
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perfectionist looks like but I I never
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thought of the other oriented
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perfectionists where they have high
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standards of others instead of
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themselves yeah that's very interesting
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yeah I think I I think I grew up with
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one I think my mom is
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thought and I think that's partially you
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know where it came from I'm not gonna
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I'm not gonna blame her for it all I
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think I think anyone that has a
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disordered relationship with food in
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their bodies it's a it's a culmination
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of a lot of different factors it's never
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just one but you know there was a there
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was a definite pressure to perform and
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be perfect and it came from a
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well-meaning place of I think a lot of
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parents do this they don't want their
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child to fail so they'll try to
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preemptively pick out all the things
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that other people might pick out if they
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don't pick it out first but it creates a
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perfect storm of perfectionism it's just
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then then I growing up decided that I
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was going to try to be perfect to avoid
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her
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criticism cycle goes on and it's so hard
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because now I'm a parent too and I see
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it like I feel that pull to want to make
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make him make my son as perfect as
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possible so that nobody makes fun of him
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or does or he doesn't you know get into
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trouble at all in any sort of way and
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it's it's h it's trying to let them make
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their own mistakes and let them be
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imperfect and let them be okay with that
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and and validate themselves instead of
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always looking for that external
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validation that us perfectionists love
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to
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get it's so true though it definitely
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has a combination of like nature versus
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nurture when it comes to all this
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disordered eating talk which I think
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it's another great segue do you would
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you say that like all these different
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types of perfectionists can struggle
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with like their own forms of disordered
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eating or is it like a certain type that
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tends to display the most signs of
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disordered
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eating I would say definitely this this
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self-oriented perfectionist is probably
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going to be hit the most with it and and
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I saw that with me it was and I see it
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with my clients too it's it's it's never
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good enough it's you you meet the goal
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weight and then you want the new goal
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weight because the goal weight that you
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reached didn't make you happy or
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fulfilled the way that you thought it
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would and I think that's the Trap that a
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lot of people fall into is they think
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they're going to be happier or more
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successful at this arbitrary goal we and
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when they get there they don't feel that
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sense of accomplishment long term like
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they're happy for a week and then
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they're like okay well what why don't I
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feel different about myself and it's it
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takes them a while to figure out it's
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it's it's an inside job it's a it's a
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mindset it has nothing to do with your
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actual body size that's a very good way
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to put it and I think anyone
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who has potentially struggled with this
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or do even like reflect on this and
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realize it
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it's interesting to hear it verbalized
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from someone
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else what are just so like we've kind of
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already like delved a little bit into
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like what disorder eating is but what
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are some common examples of disord
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eating that someone who maybe not is
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familiar with disord e like might
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observe or experience I'm glad I'm glad
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you asked that because I feel like a lot
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of people still have this stereotype as
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anyone with an eating disorder is this W
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thin girl with like stringy hair and
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like no self-confidence and she's like
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like you know blow through a crack in
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the window type of you know it's a very
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like Kate Moss you know what but it's
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it's so much more than that there are so
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many women who are walking around with
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disordered thoughts and disordered
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behaviors around food in their bodies
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and they think that it's just normal
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they think that they're just dieting and
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dieting is just like one of those
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struggles that we have to go through as
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women like the women's plight is to
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always try to be losing weight and just
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because something is common which is
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very common to see women on diets
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doesn't mean that it's normal right um
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we've normalized it as a society it
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seems but it's not normal so disordered
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eating are behaviors and thoughts that
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you might have that aren't quite
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diagnosable yet as an eating disorder
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according to the dsm5 but are still very
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troubling because one in four people who
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go on diets and who display disordered
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eating slide into an actual diagnosable
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eating disorder so and it's it's a
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slippery slope and it's a sneaky one you
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don't even really see it coming most of
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the time which is why it's so you know
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scary so disordered eating um examples
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would be ignoring your hunger signals so
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deciding to skip breakfast and just have
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black coffee because you're trying to
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save calories and lose weight faster
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obsessively counting weighing uh your
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food or measuring your food or measuring
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your your body size so if you're on the
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scale every single day and that number
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is dictating your mood for the rest of
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the day that's a red flag if you have my
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fitness pal get the rid of it okay
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that is obsessively counting your
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calories or your Macros uh ignoring
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Cravings saying oh I can't have XYZ food
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because it's quote unquote bad for you
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but then you know probably binging on it
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later that night uh binge eating if you
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if you are binge eating that means
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you're probably heavily restricting your
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calories you know earlier on in the day
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and that's a that's a signal uh using
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exercise to make up for food or to earn
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food that you're going to eat later on
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that's another warning sign so basically
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anytime you are trying to manipulate
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your body size or weight with external
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tools instead of just listening to your
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body that's disorder
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beating yes and speaking of like going
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under the radar I feel like that's where
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orthorexia comes in right because it's
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like technically not a dsm5 diagnosable
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eating disorder at least not yet
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hopefully it will be someday but it
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often includes like all those things
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just talked about and so much more and
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it's just like healthy eating like
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you're lify a
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lifestyle exactly and I think that's why
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people often don't get diagnosed or they
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just don't even like think that they
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have any kind of issue with food because
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it's just healthy lifestyle well and
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they've also created you know
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terminology around the disordered eating
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behaviors that make them look normal
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like a cheat day a cheat day is just a
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planned bench it's just yep we're just
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we're putting like lipstick on a pig
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here and calling it normal it's so true
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it's so true so let's tie it into
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perfectionism how does perfectionism
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like come into all this what you
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say so I see it in two different ways I
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my personal experience was you
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know I had a narrative in my head that
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thin equals more attractive like the
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thin you were the more attractive you
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were um and so I had had to be in my
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mind the most attractive I had to be
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number one so that meant I had to keep
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losing weight keep losing weight um and
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I wanted to look like the models that we
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see in magazines and on social media you
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know never mind the fact that I have my
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genetics and they have theirs and they
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have professionals and filters and
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Photoshop and all the things that I
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don't and they're dehydrated before they
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take those Fitness photos and all the
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all the things all the tricks that we
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know
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I still wanted to look like that all the
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time and I couldn't so that was my
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version of perfectionism but I see with
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my clients a lot that and I saw this
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with myself too on some degree uh this
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idea that you know they they get on a
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meal plan or they decide to eat
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intuitively and then they miss a workout
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one day or they eat past fullness one
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day even though they were trying to kind
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of assess themselves on the hunger full
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and the scale and listen to their body
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cues and if they like quote unquote mess
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up once they like stop everything they
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decide they're just going to eat foods
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that don't feel good in their body
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they're not going to move their body
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anymore and they kind of just let every
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all the health promoting behaviors go
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just because they quote unquote slipped
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up
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once that's such a good example I think
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that's exactly where that like
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disconnect is between like doing
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intuitive eating and perfectionism like
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that's where people I think get really
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tripped up that was such a good way to
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put it yeah and and that's the thing
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it's it's it's intuitive eating but you
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can't do it perfectly yeah you're not a
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robot where it's just like certain
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amount of food in all the time exactly
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the same it's sometimes I'm sure you
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guys experience this to as dietician
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sometimes you eat past bonus sometimes
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you don't eat enough sometimes you feel
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sick sometimes you skip a work like it
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does doesn't matter it's got you gotta
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learn to live in the gray do it shitty
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as I like to say yep we'll have days
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where we don't eat a vegetable like
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that's okay it sounds like a wild
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concept from a dietician but it's more
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than fine to have those days
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absolutely well speaking of you
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mentioned like doing it shitty I bet you
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have all kinds of other tips and tricks
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for our listeners who are like yes this
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is me I'm perfectionist I probably have
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orthorexia or some other disorder eating
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behaviors like what do I do now about it
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like how do I fix this yeah and and and
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and even back that up just a second if
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you have that question where you're like
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am I at to sort of either or you know is
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what I'm doing quote unquote wrong if it
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feels wrong if you have a pit in your
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stomach listening to this episode you
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might want to look into it you know
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because intuition intuition knows but
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you know there are a few things that I I
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tell my clients to do to get out of that
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perfectionism and you know
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perfectionism it can serve you very well
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if you're one of those High Achievers
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but it has a shadow side and this is an
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example of the Shadow side so I tell
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them do it shitty and I can't even take
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credit for that that's Kristen Finch is
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where I heard that um if you if you look
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up her podcast um do it shitty you it
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might not be perfect but at least you're
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doing it so just do it shitty and it it
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it adds a bit of levity to have that be
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your Mantra also try the Mantra you know
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let's just do B minus work doesn't have
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to be an A+ you know it's not an F it's
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just it's just a B minus like do a good
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enough job another thing that I walk my
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clients through is called Tombstone
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thinking which I feel like people fall
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into two camps you either think talking
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about death is super morbid and
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depressing and you want to avoid it or
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it could be really really life affirming
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and put a lot of perspective on your
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life so when I talk about Tombstone
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thinking as a strategy I tell my clients
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to journal out three different questions
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the first one is what do you want to
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think about your life when you're on
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your deathbed like you're 80 90 100
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whatever and you're on your deathbed and
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you're thinking about all the things you
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did with your life do you really want to
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look back and go Jesus I was so obsessed
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with my weight my entire life and did it
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actually end up mattering in the end so
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that was a really powerful question for
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me too uh number two is what do you want
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written on your Tombstone like if you
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had an Epitaph you
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know she had the best abs like I don't
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want that on my Tombstone like I don't
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want that to be what people remember for
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I want to be remembered for something a
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lot more profound than you know being
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what goal we that I set out to be and
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the third is what do you want people to
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talk to say about you at your funeral or
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at your celebration of life party I feel
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like no one does funerals after Co I
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feel like it's celebration of life
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parties but what do you want people to
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say about you do you want do you want
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them to say oh my God she was so fit I
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wish I had her body or do you want them
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to say she was a great friend she was a
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great mom sister daughter whatever she
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was loyal she was smart she was
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tenacious I would so much rather people
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say that about me than some something
19:58
about my
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aesthetic and what's so important about
20:02
all that too is people probably wouldn't
20:05
say those things like oh she had the
20:06
best abs or she was always so good at
20:10
like eating the perfect portioned meals
20:11
they're gonna say things about your
20:13
personality you are the one who was
20:15
thinking like what's everyone thinking
20:16
about my body right now like you are the
20:18
only one actually thinking about your
20:19
body that much no one else is thinking
20:21
about those things and on your Tombstone
20:24
even if that was your life goal to like
20:26
have that six-pack no one else is going
20:28
to add that to your Tombstone like if
20:30
you didn't get the chance to like
20:31
prepare it yourself yeah
20:34
exactly well the other thing is there
20:36
were there's a um it's like a 100 page
20:38
ebook but I I really liked it's called
20:41
Confessions of a fitness model by meline
20:43
Moon and she talks about being a bikini
20:46
competitor and how when she was training
20:49
she had no social life she did not see
20:52
anybody because she couldn't e Off plan
20:54
so if those are your goals people might
20:56
not say all that much at your funeral
20:57
because you weren't there you weren't
20:59
living your
21:01
life that's such a good point and I feel
21:03
like oftentimes
21:05
like social life and like
21:10
celebration often times gets like pushed
21:12
down
21:14
whenever there's like any type of like
21:16
stricter rules especially like in the
21:18
like bodybuilding competitions that
21:22
Arena but in general with disord eating
21:25
like the like unknown of like what's
21:27
going to be on the men are they going to
21:29
have something I can eat will I know
21:31
what to input in my fitness pal that
21:33
will accurately depict what I ate like
21:35
stuff like that is very scary and people
21:39
just like avoid it completely and if
21:42
you're not going outside and seeing
21:44
people there will probably be minimal
21:46
people than at your funeral which is sad
21:48
to think about it is it is and you
21:51
actually just said something Emily that
21:53
I want to just touch upon quickly is
21:54
this idea of control right like
21:56
controlling and knowing what you can put
21:58
in your Fitness P or what you can eat at
22:00
the at the restaurant that ties in with
22:02
the perfectionism as well because
22:05
perfectionism is trying to avoid
22:07
criticism and we need to have everything
22:09
be controlled if we're going to avoid
22:11
that criticism so control is a huge part
22:14
of it as well so if you feel like
22:15
somebody who's who always has to be in
22:18
control of their circumstances that's
22:20
another red flag as an oldest daughter
22:23
I'm just like nails on a chalkboard this
22:26
is me this is me this is me
22:28
I know it was me too like this my lived
22:30
experience and like now I laugh about it
22:32
because now I finally understand where
22:34
everything came from and why I did the
22:36
things that I did but so now I can laugh
22:38
about it but yeah man it hit a nerve
22:40
when I first realized what I was
22:41
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22:43
doing it's good to look back on but I
22:46
feel like this whole thing has been a
22:47
very good
22:49
reflection session for everyone involved
22:53
which has been very good so I feel like
22:56
we we had so many great different things
22:58
talking about kind of like what
22:59
perfectionism is the different types how
23:02
can TI to disort eating how easily they
23:05
can fit together without like even
23:08
experiencing that and then you Al you
23:10
gave some really great advice and like
23:12
if people are struggling with it where
23:15
can they start at least if you were to
23:18
kind of leave our listeners with some
23:22
final thoughts about everything we just
23:24
talked about what would you want them to
23:26
hear
23:29
I just I want everybody to and it's
23:31
funny that I say this this is like my my
23:33
signature coaching model I call it chill
23:35
the out it's like a play on um
23:38
cognitive behavioral therapy so it's
23:40
chill the out ctfo circumstance
23:43
thought feeling and outcome and I just I
23:45
just want people to chill the out
23:47
like I just want people to when they're
23:49
worried about not hitting their macros
23:51
or going out to dinner and not being
23:53
able to log into my fitness pal and you
23:55
know gaining five pounds or missing a
23:58
workout like really take a step back and
24:02
look at your entire life what you've
24:04
lived and what you have yet to live and
24:07
try to put it in perspective of your
24:09
entire life it doesn't matter like none
24:12
of it matters and if you want to get
24:13
into and again some people might find
24:15
this depressing I find it life affirming
24:17
like if you think about the world and
24:19
all of the people in it and the universe
24:21
and whatever else is that like your five
24:23
pounds means nothing like it's so
24:26
stupid just just life is not
24:29
that serious it's an experiment just
24:31
have fun just relax doesn't have to be
24:34
perfect em and I always talk about just
24:36
like being on a floating Rock like it
24:38
literally doesn't matter we're just on a
24:39
floating Rock right now nothing matters
24:42
I know I know and like and I'm sure some
24:44
people are like oh nothing matters I'm
24:45
just gonna do nothing but like nothing
24:47
like live the out of your life yeah
24:50
go for everything that you want in your
24:52
life but at the same time have that
24:54
knowledge that you're doing it for you
24:56
and nobody else cares and it's like
24:59
we're all here for a fine night amount
25:00
of time so don't stress exactly well
25:03
Alana it's been so wonderful to talk
25:05
about all this stuff I know our
25:06
listeners are just like snapping the
25:08
entire episode I know they're going to
25:10
take so much from this thank you so much
25:12
for all this valuable information before
25:14
we get to our bonus question let our
25:16
listeners know where they can find you
25:17
where they can learn more tell us about
25:19
your book when that's coming out let
25:21
everyone know where they can learn more
25:22
from you yes so um I don't know if we'll
25:25
have the the pre-order link by the time
25:27
comes out but uh the book is coming out
25:30
on November 14th of 2023 it is called in
25:34
uh Freedom with food and fitness how
25:35
intuitive eating is the key to your
25:37
happiest healthiest self it's half about
25:40
intuitive eating half about intuitive
25:42
movement um lots of very tangible
25:45
actionable tips things that I use in my
25:48
life that I used in my recovery from Ed
25:50
to a certified intuitive eating
25:52
counselor the entire Journey that I went
25:54
on and I really hope that it resonates
25:56
and people can um grab some some tips
25:59
from it that they can utilize that day
26:01
and uh to find me if you want to work
26:03
with me as a coach as an intuitive
26:05
eating Coach Freedom withth foodand
26:07
fitness.com is the best place to see uh
26:10
packages I offer pricing all that stuff
26:12
how to how to book a phone call with me
26:14
I'm on Instagram mostly for social media
26:17
so that's at Freedom withth food and
26:19
fitness so come over there say hi get
26:21
some free resources I want to talk to
26:23
all the peoples amazing and we will link
26:26
all of that in the show not so if you
26:29
didn't write it down you can check it
26:30
out
26:31
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26:44
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26:47
pleasure and we know that our listeners
26:49
will take so much away from this episode
26:51
thank you for having me this was awesome
26:54
all right guys see you next week bye
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