Episode 120: Naughty or Nice: Influencers
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In this episode of The Up-Beet Dietitians podcast, Emily and Hannah kick off their new “Naughty or Nice” series by discussing popular influencers online. You may recognize a couple of these names based off past podcast episodes or the girls just gossip about them quite a bit. Some highlights to look out for are Alix Earle, Dr. Mike, and Carnivore MD. Be sure to tune in for this fun holiday series!
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Hello everybody welcome back to a brand new episode of the upbeat dieticians
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podcast hello everyone we are so excited for today we are doing a new series this
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is the first start of it it's our Naughty or Nice Series right on brand with the holiday season and today's
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episode we're going to be focusing using on influencers so we're going to be either branding them as naughty or nice
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and then of course we'll go into why but you might see some of your favorites in
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here you also might see some that are not your favorite so yeah hopefully
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it'll be fun for everyone fun for the whole family although maybe not not the
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people we're talking about potentially that's true or little kids this is not a kid-friendly show all the time um I had
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two things things I wanted to say before we got into it number one I have my gingerbread men earrings in today or
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gingerbread person earrings rather we are um and then the other thing was that
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I think I'm the one editing this episode and so I'm GNA try to find like nauy and nice like little sound bites so TBD on
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what you guys will actually hear when we edit this but I think today we can just be like do we think it's not your nice
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and then like say it and then I can hopefully like put another sound little clip over it can leave some space yeah
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and then also I want to put like a picture on the screen all of this just to say to go subscribe on YouTube
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because we're way more fun to watch on YouTube you get visuals not only like our reactions sometimes like little
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bonus pictures of stuff too that relates to the topic of discussion yes
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definitely go subscribe to our YouTube channel much more fun on there yeah okay
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those are my disclaimers anything else we want to talk about before we get into it I don't think so so except for become a tdbd and join The Beat Beats so you
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can listen to our bonus questions that always quickly spiral into us talking
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about our childhood trauma and who we are as people and yeah you get a much more unfiltered
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verion there I mean this isn't filtered I would say but you you definitely find out probably a little bit too much about
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our personal lives there so true go check it out available on Spotify I
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don't know how to so our first Contender this could be a
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pageant all imagine this influen are like doing like pageant moves all of them right um our first
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content our first contestant on The Naughty or Nice show hosted by Emily and
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Hannah is the man himself liver King if
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you don't know liver King we've had two episodes about him already so so if you listen to those you already know kind of
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our opinions we will definitely go check those out because they're very funny
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liver King though we're are we we're gonna ium are we gonna start with non or ice hold on we did not discuss the okay
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okay we disc this idea like a long time ago and now we're like actually doing it we haven't really discussed the details
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I say we introduce the influencer like you just did wonderfully and then we
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talk about them what we think about them and then we'll just give a final thought like are they naughty or nice and that
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will be where I put the little sting okay sounds good so King lever King we
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made some episodes about him before he's got a history of denying steroid use but
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obviously using steroids and then he tries to like say that he was using them
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to benefit depressed young men which made no sense yeah to cure their
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depression right I believe believe I believe has he stopped the steroids I haven't kept up since last time we
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talked about him I don't really know what he's into I do not keep up with his life unless something
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newsworthy comes up yeah you also might know about liver King because he's like
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really into eating raw meat he's like he's really into that more importantly
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that's like what he does like that's how you'd know him not from the whole steroid thing probably well that was the
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biggest thing I think that came to life like that's true besides the whole raw meat thing that
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brought him back into the focus of society un online at least he's like
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super aggressive eats raw meats denies using steroids currently we have no idea
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if he's still doing that like the way he educates people about Nutrition a lot of
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it was apparently catered toward curing depression in like young boys a lot of
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interesting things going on there I'm GNA label him I don't know if I feel
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like we'll be on the same page for most of these we do like a three two one and then say our thoughts oh yeah yeah okay
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okay okay I'll count down this one ready okay three two one have you been naughty
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or nice naughty naughty he's a naughty
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boy hope I can find like a really good sting for this otherwise you guys are going to be disappointed in me I think
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but I'm trying to make it like like Santa Claus like n you're nice I don't quite know what Santa says when he's
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reading his list and he's looking at the naughty kids he's like uh oh
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naughty I think that's what he says exactly like that we'll see how you like it and then you I I feel like we should
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have brainstormed more sorry guys you're hearing our thought process live okay well moving on yeah let's move
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on I don't go listen to the episodes we have like a lot to say about him but we
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sum it up really well in both of those episodes this next one I feel like you know more about than I do I'm kind of
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neutral kind of give my answer before I hear what you have to say I can easily be swayed because I feel like you've
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hinted at stuff our next one is our next contestant on The Naughty or Nice
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show is Dr Mike he is known for YouTube more so he's been on there for a couple
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years now he's it's kind of like your like resident internet
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doctor I used to know at the time what he practiced in when I follow him a little bit more I currently do not
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anymore I think Family Med if he's still practicing that sounds right um but he
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like does like a lot of General Nutrition education I know he's talked about intermittent fasting I've watched that
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video and he kind of had the same opinion as us where was like I don't want to quote this wrong I because I
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remember remember watching it and like agreeing with him so I assume it was similar to what we
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think unless but who knows when I watched it I could have had very different opinions that's true um or at
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least nutrition philosophies but I remember in that video he just talked about like it was just like a calorie
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deficit right it's not anything magical I think and I don't want to say this
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because I feel like this is obviously recorded in digital Footprints but I think in his video
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he might have said some Americans could probably benefit from doing it just
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because of how much they eat and that kind of rubbed me the wrong way yeah but
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you know what it's fine we'll move on the most controversial thing that he has done to my knowledge is and I I know I
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told you about this Hannah I'll tell everyone else if you're not up to date on the Dr Mike controversies in Peak Co
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he was doing all this like education about Co and getting vaccinated and staying
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inside and like immune health and then we found out like I think it was 2020 it
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wasn't even it was like the end like the end of the mass like surge of it like we were in the heat of it there were
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pictures that came out that he attended a yacht party in Florida he lives in New York he attended a yacht party in
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Florida and was seen like on this boat with all these people in close proximity
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and like like swimsuits and whatnot because they're on a boat and they're swimming and he was like it was my
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birthday I think it was his birthday and people are like you literally just told people not to go outside and to keep
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your distance and wear masks and now you're on a yacht or at least like I don't know if
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it was a yacht what constitutes a yacht I'm not rich enough to know I would not know the answer to that
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unfortunately that rubbed me the wrong way and it rubed a lot of people the wrong way makes sense so not nutrition
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related but still a little bit quite a bit contradictory
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yeah that definitely makes him naughty I would say what I also just don't love
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from what I do know is I just I just don't love when doctors are giving nutrition information
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via the Internet or in person a lot of the times too especially of the internet when it's I guess he hasn't done
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anything too too controversial foodwise as opposed to some of our upcoming doctors we're going to talk about on the
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internet I don't know it's just there's so many of us now dietitians also like if you're a doctor
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you get the whole playing field of that's so true you can talk about whatever you
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want and I know nutrition is what people want to hear about like obviously
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because it's such a hot topic and everyone has their opinions on it but I don't know just like I'm fine with
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General Nutrition education things like Diet reviews and stuff like that I'm just like he does like YouTube videos
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about like reviewing Gray's Anatomy and like yeah that's fun Tick Tock accidents
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that happen like that's what a doctor should be doing on the internet if they're gonna be doing this kind of
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stuff yeah that makes sense to me if I was a doctor that's what I would probably want to be doing videos
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about interviewing dietitians he has like a podcast I think who doesn't I think
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he and doesn't have one these days exactly if you don't have one get up to
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speed so like interview dietitians on your podcast and talk about it there I
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don't know I think we've made it clear what our answer is but there's a lot of reasons why and it's not quite as
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intense as liver King but should we do a countdown again we can do it again okay
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okay three two 1 have you been naughty or nice
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naughty okay our next one is very fresh and you guys are gonna obviously know what we think before we even get into it
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they might not know this name though that's true we've got a couple ways that we refer to him his legal name as far as
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we know is Bobby Parish but Emily of course has another loving name for him
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he's Bobby ficity or oh I can see it now like now that you've said that it's in my head
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that's the only thing I can call it like Flav City just does not make sense to me
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add an e like why are we getting rid of the E it really bothers me what's a Flav
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City yeah I just don't get it and it's not even like he like promotes like fun
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flavors I I wonder if like on YouTube I think he used to do more of that kind of stuff and he's really just gotten into
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this whole like grocery store guy kind of thing I think that's what everyone says
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that has been in my comments lately because I made a Bobby Bobby video and all of the team Bobby people have been
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letting me know that he's a really good guy and he educates he
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educates by going to Duncan and pouring a ton of sugar into cups and
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that video blows my mind to just like go
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into a place and just straight up hate on them that's crazy tomorrow I'm going
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I'm planning on going to Costco and I was like okay how can I make a video out of this obviously it's how my brain works now and I just like I was thinking
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of like the process how my brain works and I was like I can't go into CCO and like I'm gonna have Ross with me I
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cannot have him like record me at Costco doing stuff like I just can't and like
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these guys are always doing that like I plan on getting little clips of the stuff like in my
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recording it when I get home like do a voiceover or whatever but like I just can't imagine like going into a
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restaurant or into a grocery store and spending I mean at least an hour I know how long it takes to record a video a
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full one like a long time causing a scene and it's even worse like you said
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if he's like demonizing the stuff that is there yes I saw someone say this
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online but I like and I stand by this we need to bring back shame and like
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shaming people because these people just have way too much confidence and like No Remorse for what they do
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like I know that like embarrassment is something that you are the one like that
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you are experiencing it and you kind of decide if you're embarrassed or not but like we also need to bring that back
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there are things that we should not be doing and that is one of them just do it
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like in the comfort of your home oh do a voice over like if you're gonna talk
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crap about Duncan and their drinks like record it or do it in your car like yeah
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in your car just not way in the store
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right there right I hope I never get that kind of confidence I think it's good to have confidence but like you
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said we need a little bit of embarrassment and shame I think we're a little too self-aware so like we're okay I was
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think about that today actually I was thinking like about my YouTube channel and like what I want to like work on I'm
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just like way too I take myself way too seriously we always talk about this I take things way too seriously it is not
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that deep we are on a floating rock yeah we're probably carrying a little bit too
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much yeah which is why this podcast has turned into us just ranking influencers at this point instead of too much of
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just taking ridiculous amounts of notes on diet reviews which is still do yeah something we like to do
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but it's just pretty fun to do this fun yeah I don't know if we need to countown
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have you been naughty or nice we already know he's a a naughty little boy naughty
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naughty naughty okay well we're four three for three with naughty yeah lots
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of naughty people on our lists they're not getting presents from
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us yeah anyway let's move on to our next
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candidate or contestant on The Naughty or ni show is Miss Alex Earl Alex
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Earl is mostly known on Tik Tok she you
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probably know her from doing a lot of like get ready with MES I know a lot about her life because I followed her
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for a long time so if I just spout off information it's because I just know too
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much about her life and I've watched a lot of her get ready with Mees but she
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does mostly like makeup and like
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clothing stuff and like just traveling in general something though she does
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talk about sometimes I feel like this is just going to give it away is she talks about like how she has a history with
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like an eating disorder and she kind of talks about how she like incorporates
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all Foods in her life she's done a couple what I eat in a days and I've
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actually stitched it at one point but it was like the classic like just because
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you eat like someone doesn't mean you look like them C didn't like do a body check to start yeah yeah yeah yeah but
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she does and she also is a victim of the bloom partnership which is very sad
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she's a bloom a bloomer I didn't know that she's a bloomer she is of course I'm very sad because one of my
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recent favorite influencers just posted a bloom B the other day and I'm like
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no like whatever get your bag i s you making
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money so yeah that's Alex yeah I you evidently know more about her than
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I do I really just know her as like the get ready with me girl became very popular very fast she's now dating an
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NFL guy right well they've kind of this is how I know too much they've got been dating
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for like eight months oh um but it wasn't official till
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recently yeah she's she's dating an NFL guy I see quite a bit of her stuff for her not being someone I follow but I
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mean when you're that popular it makes sense that Tik Tok is like pushing your stuff out yeah um yeah I think the only
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food content I've seen was the one that you had stitched and reacted to and I think it's like some other RDS did
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too so I'm I'm pretty neutral but I feel
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like we might agree on our overall take on this one do you want to countd down this time I'll count down all right ready three two one have you been
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naughty or nice nice hi so gentle what does it say about
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us that the three men were naughty and the first girl we have is nice as I mean that's just how the
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cookie crumbles or I think you actually used that correctly nice
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job I think you actually used that right well speaking of we're moving on to another man not to give it away
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but um have we done an episode on him no we need to bad I'm surprised we haven't
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me too it's just we've like touched on the carnivore stuff so much that it's that's true we just like forget about
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him we're like sick of it but we haven't done a deep dive on like his credentials and like what they actually mean
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because he's okay so it's carnivore MD we'll spit that out but isn't he a
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psychologist isn't he not a doc like a medical doctor I didn't even know if he was a doctor but yeah I'm pretty sure
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his username is carnivore MD but all right now I'm GNA we're gonna quickly Google searches get our facts straight
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oh he has oh he has MD behind his name hul saladino I didn't even know
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name he looks like a Paul does plants are not your friend his website says I
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don't get it his picture is like with all these plants like so true did he just throw
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all those out of course he's a podcast I found him Psychiatry that's what it is
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he a psychiatrist this Sneaky Snake yeah so he is an MD but he's a psychiatrist
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so even farther away from nutrition right which is so so ironic because if
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you work in Psychiatry I feel like you would have an understanding of at least borderline stuff of Eating Disorders
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like the surface level stuff yeah and like you don't see how what you're talking about is making that worse you
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would think look at his picture on LinkedIn it's weird seeing him with a shirt on it really
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is what is the pipeline of Psychiatry
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students to promoting bad diets what
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what happened there it must be like the same thing that's happening when chiropractors are in their mini mall
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school it's like they probably have like one specific I don't know textbook
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they're all reading from that says you are a genius and it just really Strokes their ego and they're like you should
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definitely be educating on everything that you don't have the power to yeah so
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yeah I feel like everyone saw this one one coming have you been naughty or nice
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another Naughty Boy naughty this is funny how all the men
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have so far naughty well I'm looking at our list and we have three women and one
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man left and I kind of already have an estimate of what we're going to rank all of them and it's pretty fitting pretty
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on brand and on par for the day well it's also well know I think this is
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telling that people trust a man's opinion more so you're going to
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recognize these men's names and the
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girls we bring up not as many and not as controversial but less like I'm gonna
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skip to our next one before we get to Papa swolio who we have before this person like food science babe like she
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is an actual like educated like scholar very smart and and she's getting so many
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comments every day from people who are questioning everything she says yeah and
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I'm sure that like liver King and carore MD get comments too people like us but
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it just seems like they have such of like a more cult following people who are just like whatever you say is
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definitely true yeah just because they're dudes yeah and what does that
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say about Society the patriarchy is still alive and well her videos are like so educational and she's willing to do
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it for free yeah like she's willing to educate people and answer the same
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questions over and over and over again she talking about food science babe since we already talk I think we already
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are yeah so she has her degree in food science and I don't know what she's most
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well known on I think Instagram is where like she initially popped off on that's where I think I found her but like she
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also has a very big Tik Tok yeah very popular in both places
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but she does a lot of Education about like it's like GMOs and preservatives
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and like things that we might not understand or like the general person might not understand about like
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nutrition labels helping dive into like different ingredients what it actually means regulations with food stuff like
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that yeah very educational so educational also very neutral like
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she'll I will say I'm not a neutral person and I educate is not the most
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neutral um so we all have our flaws but she does a very good job
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of like coming from an a Very unbiased place and just presenting the
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information as it is and she even goes over like research and stuff like that yeah she sites her sources which liver
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King is definitely not doing yeah I think the only person so far might be Dr
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Mike that has cited sources at any point yeah say nutrition I'm just saying in
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general I don't yeah he's the only dude on here so far that I actually like I would trust him as my doctor like my
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family doctor like generally he's fine he's naughty when it comes to nutrition
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and covid but yeah I would not go to him nutrition yeah he has a popular YouTube
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video I haven't watched it but it's about like him being called fat phobic have you seen that one I've seen parts
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of I think I've seen maybe the thumbnail I don't think I've watched it the thing
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still fresh for me it's been like three years but CU like there's there's obviously claims of him being fat phobic
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if he had to make a video about it yes and enough of it yeah food science babe
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though she's gonna get a have you been naughty or nice she's so nice she's so
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nice so nice I love her she their presents from us she's so like calming I know not angry no P to allot
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these men I eat liver okay should we go back up to Papa
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swolio he's my least favorite well him I know maybe tide I've seen no I can't say
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that they all suck I so Papio Tik Tok that's where I
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see him that's same okay luckily only there but the only content I've ever
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seene was him like yelling at me to go to the gym because I'm lazy yeah and that kind of sums up like
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all the videos I've seen pretty much he recently hated on cozy cardio which
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people were upset about people like me I made a video about it he's like it doesn't count as exercise if you're not
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in the gym lifting weights and then the the creator of cozy cardio I forget her name she like made a video response back
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to it and she was like you know know I probably have a much stronger heart than you do like lifting weights at the rate
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that you do is like all fine and D Andy but like your heart probably
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sucks like I'm doing this cardio it's nice like it's good for me it's gentle
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also improving my cardiovascular health and doesn't seem like you are so they've got a little Feud going it's great oh I
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love that for cozy cardio I they Prevail and win me too I don't know how you win
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that but I don't either people like cozy cardio though she's winning in that in that way it's become very trendy which I
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think is great but yeah papa swolio he's just like um he's the ultimate Jim bro
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is what he is yeah if you saw like toxic Jim brro in the
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dictionary he would be there he's got the super long blonde hair and like the I forget the name of the equipment but
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like the big heavy Hammer thing some lifter trying th yes literally some
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lifters will use it like for actual like exercise and like that is like part of their routine but he's just like
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swinging it around talking about everyone's lazy pieces of [ __ ] and they should just be more like him and buy his
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merch and e e we're so
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biased we are not the most doal sources and that's something whereare at
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least we acknowledge it we're not up here trying to pretend we're like you know what if Papa was a woman and it was
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Mama swolio but she was the exact same but still a woman I would not like her
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either yeah no I'd be like what are you doing if food science babe was a white dude I would still like him her if it
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was the same exact person but just a dude instead of a girl but but they are
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and this is together a lot there's a lot of common themes here yeah we can't
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ignore it no there's obviously themes have you been naughty or nice Pap SW was
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naughty by you didn't if you didn't get that very naughty another naughty guy
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our next girl our next girl our next
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Contender and the aor night show is Nutrition By Kylie we only we we held
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back and I only put one dietician on here um but she's a dietician known on
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Tik Tok you've probably seen a lot of her videos she does a lot of like easy
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meal prep a lot of like just easy meals in general she sometimes does stuff
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about like cultural appreciation and talk about like Asian dinners stuff like that um a lot of like myth busting on
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there as well I don't know if she has any controversies I don't think so she's been like blowing up on every single
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platform it's crazy like I saw a you or um a Facebook re the other day of hers
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just like that popped up and it had of course millions of views like everything she posts goes viral like does well
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everywhere and she was recently at John Legend and Chrissy teegan's House I was
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like what is happening for reference like you just said she's a dietitian like she's just I don't want to say just
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but she's a dietician like us like yeah how did she get invited
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to John Legend's house where he played All of Me on the piano and she got to
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watch it live how does one go about that how does
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how does John Legend or Chrissy can get is it like an email or does like like imagine like getting that email or
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someone like text her because she's that in I don't I truly do not get it oh that'd be crazy do you think she has one
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of their numbers probably not one of those two but like someone who was like a friend of a friend of those two yeah
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what a world like now do they like know her like do they follow her and like watch her videos I always think about
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that like Taylor Swift could be watching one of our videos one day on her for you
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page that's how the algorithm works sometimes that's crazy that's true I've never thought about that it makes me kind of think
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twice which I don't need that because I'm already overthinking things but like anyone can see the videos you post it's
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crazy but yeah um we love her she's great her vide her videos deserve to go viral they're all
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really good videos really good production and like quality and good content it's just like mindblowing from
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like a business standpoint how every single video gets so many views yeah
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yeah tons of Partnerships with Brands obviously I think that's ultimately how she got to John Legend and Chrissy
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Tegan's house was like a brand deal thing yeah that would make sense because it was like set up like one of those
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like the long tables and like all the other influencers were there
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and I just don't get it I don't either she also has met Selena Gomez she was at
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like a rare Beauty event I think she got invited that because she won a mental
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health award from Tik Tock what she like got recognized as like one of the like
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leading mental health Advocates on the platform I don't want to sound like just
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deserve that but does she talk about that a lot though she talks a lot about like like from like the easy meal
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standpoint she talks go over like ADHD and stuff sometimes yeah that's true
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that's true she's also talked about her own eating disorder yeah I think that's like one of her Pinn videos so like if
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you were to go to it it'd be one of the things up there that's true she but she's just not as in your face about
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mental health it's like yeah these underlying things she says I mean I
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think if you're making content that isn't about demonizing Foods you're probably making mental health better in
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some way or another yeah yes if you're even just like a neutral Creator you're
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doing some good because our feeds are so much just anti-food all the time have
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you been naughty or nice well Kylie's nice we like Kylie's nice also want to
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have her on the Pod when she's not going to celebrities Thanksgiving parties I know are we going to be able to fit her
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in we are at the very bottom of her list if John Legend is also on her list if
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we're going up against John Legend it might be a while yeah okay our
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last one our last one you guys will definitely know this or her Emily Maro
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maybe not so much as trendy in 2023 although still very popular but I feel
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like it was much more 2022 when she was like I mean she had her wedding or was
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that this year have early this year was her wedding
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yeah but yeah I don't remember but she's the one with the the viral salmon bowl with the Ice Cube and the
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rice and then you add your sriracha and your Mayo it's very good I've made it before her videos are mostly just like
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like recipes and like food creation not so much nutrition education at all I've
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never seen her talk about like nutrition education they're very calming it's like
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just her original audio Yeah clip together it's nice have
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you watched her first YouTube video I was just looking her up today
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then I saw she had like what like three of them or something yeah she only has like three longterm videos but because
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her shorts do well she is like I think over a million on YouTube it's essentially just a long form version
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where she actually does talk about what she makes but it's more of her just like saying like this is what I'm eating
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today it's not like the why as much but she does talk in
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those which is different from like all her Tik toks because she never talks really I know I don't know if I know
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what her voice sounds like she talked in a lot of her wedding videos and I was very closely following her wedding
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so I know her from that but nothing else well I know I just said that neutral
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basically means you're nice so and that's our answer right there have you been naughty or nice she's a nice one
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yeah well that was part one of three of our naughty and Night series next week
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we are talking about Tik Tok and social media food Trends this was fun thanks for tuning in guys we'll see you next
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week otherwise have a good day bye guys see you next week
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