Episode 34: Can Sleep Deprivation Affect Your Dietary Habits?
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Participant #1:
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to The Upbeat Dietitians Podcast. Hello, everyone. Today we have a very fun episode for you. Kind of going back. I haven't done a solo podcast episode in a long time, I guess duo podcast episode. Hopefully you've missed us talking a little bit. But today we're going to be talking about the importance of sleep, specifically how your sleep affects your physical athletic performance, your academic performance, if you're a student or even kind of just whichever, I would say general work performance, mental health, and then, of course, we always have to have nutrition involved or dietary intake specifically. So you've probably heard at some point, like get seven to 9 hours of sleep. Today's episode, we're only going to be going into the signs behind correlations with low sleep durations, like short sleep duration, and then also sleeping patterns and also quality of sleep. Why? That's important? Because sleep is very important for you. Yeah, very important. And we know you guys are probably here, if you're a regular listener, to hear a lot about how it affects your nutrition intake. To start us off, let's run quickly through athletic performance, whether you like to work out you like to lift weights, run, swim, do like Pilates, yoga, whatever it is, sleep can't affect your athletic performance. So shorter total sleep time has actually been correlated with higher BMI. And we haven't done a full episode of BMI. And Hannah and I already have. We're not a fan of BMI, but just how we'd include it in there just a correlation. Yeah. Additionally, we've seen that it's associated with poor blood pressure regulation, lower physical activity levels, and then metabolic changes that are decreased as well, not in a positive light. And from a clinical standpoint, we've seen there's been developments of insulin resistance with shorter total sleep time, metabolic syndrome, cardiovascular disease, and obesity. So sleep can definitely affect your athletic performance. I'm sure you tell people this too, Hannah, but do not sacrifice or I always tell people, don't sacrifice your sleep for a workout. Yes, I always say that, like if it's choosing between only getting 5 hours of sleep or going to the gym, I'm wording that wrong. But always choose to sleep if it's going to mean that you would sacrifice sleep to get a workout. Yes, I would say if you're not getting any more than 7 hours of sleep to go to that workout the next day, just get to sleep instead. Your body is going to just view that workout as added stress, and it's not even going to be that beneficial in the long run. So focus on sleep first. For sure. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about academic performance next. Like Emily said, this can also be applicable to those who are just, like, working as well. Not so much, always just students. Of course, it matters as well to get plenty of sleep to perform your job adequately. But in terms of schooling, there is a correlation between sleep habits and academic performance. One study found that individuals who went to bed on average like two to 3 hours earlier actually had higher GPAs. Like, the study showed that those who got more sleep were averaging greater than three point 75 GPA, which is darn good. Like, that darn good than I ever had in the GPA. That's for sure. Especially at Purdue. I think I have a three point 75 in a semester GPA. Not even like your overall. Never. And probably like freshman year before it got into like, the real. Yeah. And I'm a sleeper. Emily knows this about me. I like my sleep. I do not mess around with that. And even I was still getting like, low threes. That's because Purdue is very hard. Oh, yeah. We were all struggling. Getting a bunch of 3.5 was like incredible. Yeah. But anyway, this study that this correlation was found is that those who went to sleep around like ten to eleven are the ones who did a lot better academically than the ones who are going to bed at one or. 02:00 A.m.. Now, I will say if you are going to bed at one or two in the morning and you're sleeping seven or 8 hours, that's totally fine if that's just your routine. But if you're getting up at the same time as someone who went to bed at 10:00, you're probably going to be worse off than that person. Yeah. Especially I feel like in the case of College students, you're not typically sleeping in for like seven to 9 hours because you're going to early classes unless it's a weekend.
Participant #1:
Yeah. Yeah. If your weekends are like completely different than your weekdays, that's also another problem because our bodies really do best with our sleep. The quality of sleep if we're consistent with what time we go to bed when we get up. So if you're going to bed during the week at eight or nine or ten, but then on the weekends, always going to bed at one, two, three in the morning, that's just going to be no Bueno because your body does a lot better with that sleep quality if you're consistently going to bed within like an hour of what you normally would be going to bed at. Yeah. So these studies also found that the higher GPA group, the ones that had the better GPA, were also tending to take more naps than those who had the lower GPA. So it sounds like this study is pro nap. Yes. We are a fan of naps. You can take a nap if you need to. There is no shame in the napping game. Yeah. I don't know. I myself, I don't do naps because I think I don't do naps very often. And so when I do nap, my body thinks I'm going to sleep and then it gets into a deep sleep and I get up in like three, 4 hours, which by the way, my naps are never less than 3 hours. No. Then I wake up and I'm all groggy and I have a headache for 2 hours. So I don't do naps because I don't do them enough for my body to be used to it. But if you're good about like a quick 30 minutes nap to kind of reboost. Yes, that's awesome. Yeah. I also don't really nap much unless I'm sick. Yeah, that's true. Or if I'm just like exhausted. I used to nap a lot in College because I feel like I was always running on low energy. Yeah. But that was College. That was a different time. That was a different time. A lot of different things going on. I feel like we are completely different people than we were like two years ago. Oh, yeah. I feel like if I lived in every way, like if I talked to senior year Emily right now, she's like, who is this person? And I'd also look back and like, look how sad that human being. I kiddie her. No, it was a stressful time. It was. I know I was not a good student. Not even student. I was not a good human being. Prioritized sleep. So I was constantly running on like 5 hours of sleep would not recommend. I don't know how you did that. I know my grades. I don't know. It's kind of contradicting what we just said. But I would not have as much study time because I would make sure I was getting at least 7 hours of sleep. So I don't know how you did it. I don't know how you operate it on like five. I don't either. I think I was just in constant fight or flight mode being excited. Never out of it. Purdue not doing well. I would not recommend that. The problem with Dietetics is along with all of your rigorous schooling and we double majored, you also have to do a Bajillion, different jobs, and side hustles to get an internship. I have a complaint and I don't think they can do anything about it because I've been out of the system for long enough. But I was an Ram. I'm technically not allowed to say that they had 01:00 A.m. Rounds. And if someone ResLife person finds me and reports me, you can't do it. What can they do now? You haven't worked there in like two years. Yeah, there are worse Ras than me. This is going off to that's. Okay. But that was probably my least favorite part of the job was because Thursday counts as a weekend in College life. So Thursday, Fridays and Saturdays we're doing 01:00 A.m. Round. Imagine I have like 830 classes. That's so stupid. So I was not only self sabotaging with less than 5 hours of sleep, I was also forced to part of your job. Yeah, and some people would be smart and they'd nap between. But I could not nap and then wake up until run around outside. Oh, so you just stay up till one and then do rounds and then go to sleep? I was never in RA, so I can't comment too much, I guess. But what the rounds really do? Like, were they really that affected that you had to do them every weekend night? Come on. I understand. Maybe you find someone passed out or like someone signed up. I understand that. But we're talking about grown ups, like adults who, if they can't handle themselves, that's on them. Even now, I'm like some people like, get your life together. Right? What are you doing? Who's the guy that's like, if you're fit for life, what's the name of that biologist who like holidays, not Pavlov. Who's the guy that like survival of the fittest? Who's that guy? Oh, Darwin. Darwin. Yeah. Come on. Yes, I'm a collection. If you're passed out on Hilltop's lawn on a Thursday night at 20 years old. Okay, we're going to go find where I worked. I'll cut that out. If you are passed out at Purdue, whichever lawn at 200 in the morning, like, they can't be the RA's responsibility. I mean, I guess it is because they signed up for that job. But I did sign up. You signed up for that. But also you should have responsible friends. I don't know. I can see it go both ways. I know, but from the perspective of disrupting, I have many pet peeves. But one of my number one pet peeves is anything that I think every episode you're like. My pet peeve is it's like a compilation of all my pet peeves? People now know what not to say. Yes, but is anything that disrupts my sleep like schedule? Yeah, big time. One of the biggest reasons I figured this out is anytime I pets, it's also the reason why I'm afraid of getting a dog. I hate when dogs wake me up, but I know it's like part of taking care of a dog, but I get so irrationally angry. I don't take it out on the dog. I'm just, like sitting there steaming on the inside and this kind of goes into those rounds. I was like, you did not want to run into me when I'm out.
Participant #1:
Everyone better be in bed. I will not deal with any of you. I would not have wanted to be one of your students in your area. I feel bad for a lot of my residents. Oh, your residence. That's why. That's what they're called. I'm a very different person compared to who I was as an RA. I feel like I was much Vener. It's a good thing, though, I think as an RA, because if you're just like, whatever, then you're not really doing your job very well. That's true. You're probably scared of me. Oh, good. That means that you wouldn't find them passed out at two in the morning. They do better. Then you've got to just do your rounds and go back to sleep. Exactly. Okay, well, really, the final verdict with this is that if you sleep better, you'll probably do better at school. Yeah. And next component we want to talk about is mental health. And we are huge mental health people over here on the Upbeat Diet podcast. So of course we're going to talk about this. And sleep can be correlated to your mental health status. They've actually seen in studies like depression and stress repeatedly has been shown to have a strong correlation between sleep quantity and quality. There are some other factors that affect mental health status, like poverty, stressful, life events, maltreatment, family dysfunction, stuff like that. But overall, kind of studies have shown that increased sleep problems can cause increased risk of developing depressive episodes. So not only from a physical health standpoint, an academic performance standpoint, but now also, we're throwing mental health in there. Better sleep quality or better sleep habits can improve all three. Yes, as you guys probably knew coming in. But we're giving you the deep dive on why I'm like a different person if I don't sleep, if I get less than 7 hours, you do not want to be around me. I'm not fun to be around. That's why I didn't love going out and drinking in College very much. I'm not boring guys. If you're listening and you're like, wow, she's laying hands. You stayed out to the midnight? Yeah, that was pretty good. That's good for me. I'm usually 4 hours into my sleep by then. Yeah, that's pretty late. That's the one thing I have not changed at all since College. I've always gone to bed early and gotten up early, which is I feel like unless you're working late or you have stuff to work on or unless you need like a loan time, depending on if you have a busy life or whatnot. It's a good quality to develop. Yeah. Highly recommend getting your routine. If it's later in the day. That's fine. You don't schedule like 05:00 A.m. If you don't want to. But yeah, I realize with all my patients how much later I go to bed than them. And I'm like, am I not normal? We've always been very different in that way. We're kind of on the opposite spectrum of things in terms of you're much more owl than I am. Yeah. Which is funny. When we visit each other, I'm like in my jammies at 730 and I'm like getting maybe out of bed at 830 to go run and then it's like an hour process to get ready and then up by at least 3 hours. I'm like ready to go. Yeah. It's time for my third meal of the day. Now it's funny. Is Bobby like you in that way? I'm sorry. I like to keep going. Bobby is exactly like you. Well, not exactly in the sense he's going to bed at like eight. He goes to bed at nine or 930. I should know. Bobby and I are the same person. Yeah. That's why you're together. Yes. Marrying the male person with me. Yeah. I always make fun of him because he goes to bed so much. Like I go to bed around 1130 midnight. There's a solid two and a half hours where we're like because we're both busy while we work so we don't talk during the day. And then there's like now a two and a half hour period where I'm awake and he is sleeping. I'm like but it hasn't caused any conflicts. It's funny to me. Yeah. It's just like the fact that you see the beginning of the following day before you even go to sleep. Like if you go to bed tonight. I never thought about it. It's going to be Friday when you go to sleep. That is something that has confused me at times when I'm putting things in my calendar. I like to read a lot. This is completely off topic. This whole podcast, our sleeping habits and why we do that. Yeah. Let me tell you about my life. I like to read a lot and I track on Goodreads when I start a book and I'll often read a book in one sitting in like four to 5 hours. So I'll start at 09:00 p.m. And then end at one or two. And when I'm logging I'm like what day? That is not a good habit to develop. Do not prioritize reading over sleep. I have done that some bad time, bad times when I have to work early and then I am tired. Yeah. I was going to say it's totally fine if it was like a weekend you could sleep in. Oh, no, I have no self control. I mean, I get it. If you get into a good book or like a good show, I can relate to that. I mean, it's like 10:00, which is my midnight. But yeah, I don't know what it is. I have some self sabotaging behaviors and I'm aware of them. At least you're aware of them. Yeah. Anyway, the next component that I'm sure you've all been waiting for is how sleep affects nutrition. And this is kind of split into two different sections. First half is going to be like if you're getting just short sleep duration in general. Second half is going to be timing of sleep and what time you're more so going towards. So I'll start us off with the durations part. Studies have shown that. And also we keep saying studies have shown we have all the research articles for this one. So if you would like to check them out. I think they're an APA format. What did we used to do back in the day? I don't even know. The fact that you just said that sent me. I wanted to crawl under a hole. It's definitely not MLA into a hole. I don't even know. I don't know. I literally use information in like a year's time. I'm going to forget it. Yeah. Like if you ask me to calculate a tube feed right now, there's no way. Oh, my gosh. I have not done that so long. I kind of miss it, though. But you like your math. Yeah, but yeah, I haven't used that information since probably junior or senior year. I am glowing. I'm going to scatter notch. Sorry. Everyone watching video. That's all right. I've got a gross red microphone that does not fit my style. How do I sound? Guys, let me know so I can at least redeem that. This is my husband's microphone and he really likes it. We'll give it a thumbs up for that. Give us a thumbs up for Hannah's microwave. It's really ugly and I hate it. Wait, look, that's okay. But anyway, back to short sleep duration. Don't worry. Today, okay. Sites have shown that shorter sleep duration has been correlated with decreased energy expenditure, increased consumption of fatty or fast foods, increased snacking, greater alcohol consumption. And this short sleep duration will actually affect some of our hormones, like leptin, ghrelin, and cortisol, which all affect that sensation of hunger. And it actually enhances our feelings of hunger. So when you're more tired, you actually might be hungry more when you actually your body might need to be hungry or sending those natural hunger cues. It's just the hormones are a bit more malfunctioning because you aren't giving yourself plenty of rest. And last thing to note is short of sleep duration actually enhances our hedonic stimulus. And this is how essentially the brain processes those underlying drive to consume food, relating back to those hunger sensations.
Participant #1:
Yes. Very cool. So don't get short sleep. All right. So the other part of this is why you should maybe go to bed a little bit earlier, because there's the reasons why going to bed late can be a negative thing. These studies that we keep referring to, they have found that people who are later sleepers, on average consumed about 248 extra calories in a day than, quote, unquote, normal sleepers. Because, like what Emily just said, I guess that's kind of more like lack of sleep. But I guess the late sleeping, too. Like, if you are having more hours in your evening, you're more likely to eat more calories because most of these evenings are going to be at home and that's where all the food is. So it kind of does make sense. Yeah. They also found that the majority of calories were consumed after 08:00 P.m., which again, makes total sense because you're probably at home unless you have like a third shift job. And if you don't really have a lot of other activities you're doing, what else is there to do Besides eat? Unless you go to sleep like me. They also found that an average of 553 additional calories were consumed between 10:00 P.m. And. 04:00 a.m.. So it's like you're super late night people. And then as we kind of alluded to, those later bed times and later wake up times are associated with poor diet quality and higher risk of obesity. As you can tell from everything we talked about, lack of sleep and late night late sleep habits has a negative effect on not only your nutrition, mental health, academic performance, and athletic performance. So get enough sleep and we're going to tell you how you can get better sleep quality quantity with these easy tips. Yeah. Tip number one, don't have kids. That's like the only reason that I think I get to sleep. But I do think that's the only reason I don't want kids. That's one of the big reasons. Oh, yeah. That's why I'm already hesitant to get a dog. I know I'm going to get a dog because I need emotional support. Because dogs. Yeah, Bobby's not good enough. I need a dog. But then I'm like kids. They just wake you up so much throughout the night. Yeah, it sounds terrible, apparently. Side note myself, as a baby, my mom said I would sleep all throughout the day, so I was super easy to take care of. But my dad said I was the worst because then he would be on the night shift and I would be up all the time. So imagine that. And this is talking about myself so I can smack talk myself. I get home from work or I think I don't know if my mom probably was on maternity leave. Like, I get home from work and this kid of mine slept through the entire day and now she's ready to go at night. Maybe that's why I was going to say that's, like how you are now. Maybe I'm an owl. I'm actually a nocturnal creature. Like a raccoon. I think Owls. That's probably more accurate. Raccoon. I get really bad eye bags and I like eating a lot. Is that your spirit animal? That's just an. I am a raccoon raccoon. It's kind of cute. They're rowdy, but they're cute. I really like them. I do, too. I'm afraid of them. I see someone like one of those by a dumpster. I'm staying clear, like, it's going to fight me. Have you seen them go up on their Hind legs? Oh, yeah. And their eyes. Fun story. Because this podcast is a show at this point. We're just going to go with it. When my cousin got married, we went to an island in Georgia, and so we camped outside, and so we were camping outside. It was a nighttime. The next day we got up for the wedding, and obviously we're camping, so everything was outside, like, including the wedding dress and everything. You can probably guess where this is going. The raccoons got into the little bin the wedding dress was in. They didn't ruin it. She still looked really beautiful on her wedding day. But we had to do some fixing up because they got into it. I don't remember exactly, but I think they, like, maybe put some holes in it or scratch it up or something. Yeah. What was their motivation? What did they smell like? There was no food in there, I assume not in there, but close by because we had, like, everything camping, like, everything in one little area. Yeah. And you could hear them do a little weird, creepy laugh. They do. It was really terrifying. I don't love camping for a lot of reasons, but that really turns me off from it. So, yeah, that's your spirit animal. Emily, you're a wedding dress chomper. Yes, I am accepting that. I could see you going hard on a wedding dress. Okay. Anyway, let's go over some tips on how to improve your sleep quality and quantity. Yes. So tip number one is limiting your alcohol usage, caffeine intake, and use of electronic media before bedtime to just increase that overall sleep quality and quantity. How do you feel like you do with that one? I feel like I struggle
Participant #1:
lately. I've been very stressed, as you know, and I need to do something that doesn't require any brain power. So I just scroll through TikTok. I know. It's so bad for me. I know. But I surprisingly don't have issues falling asleep. I think it's because I'm so exhausted. That's how Ross is. Like, he literally has to watch, like, a YouTube video or TikToks on his phone to fall asleep. That's so interesting. I know. Yeah, that's fine. It's not, like, impacting his sleep. I don't think it might be. I don't know. Seems like it could be. Yeah. Like his quality probably he gets enough, but I bet the quality is probably impacted by that. Oh, yeah. That's been a goal of mine is to, like, 30 minutes before bed. Don't even touch it. Right. That's when I kind of turned to reading. But then we saw how that turned out. So instead of, like, 20 minutes on TikTok, it's 5 hours of reading an entire novel. Actually, I am in an oversharing mood. So whoever listens to this episode, like, is Emily okay? No, the answer is no. I was talking to my therapist about this for, like, distress activities. And she's like, because I was talking about screen time. How that's something I want to get rid of. She's like, you mentioned you read. I'm like, see, I am also not good at that because then I read for 5 hours and it's one or 02:00 A.m.. And she was like, well, why don't you read something that you won't feel the need to continue? I'm like, for example, I'm working on Marie Condo's book still. I've been working on that for months. I cannot get through it. No disrespect to Marie Condo. I just really like my fictional books, something I thought was a good idea have not implemented. If you don't like reading it, that's a good tip. It's a good tip. I don't want to hit on your therapist, right? No, I thought I was going because then I'm like, I don't feel the need to continue. I can read a chapter or two and still be stressed. But the thing is, then my thought process, I was like, when do I have time to read my fun books? Exactly. That's when you read. When you read, you want to read stuff you actually really like, yeah, I think the solution is like, I need to set a timer or something. I know I need to practice self control. I think that's what it is, some discipline. But it's way easier to just say I get to a good part, and then I'm like, I'll end at the next chapter, and then it's like five chapters later and I'm like, may as well finish the book at this point, right. I think any reader listening could absolutely feel you on that one. I don't think you're alone in that struggle. Yeah, I'm more of an audiobook kind of person. I don't know what it is. Also very selfdestructive, but I feel like I'm wasting time when I read, even though I know that's not true. It's a very great self care activity. You can learn a lot. But I'm like, so sit down low and listen to audiobooks. No. Even like watching TV, I feel so guilty because I'm self destructive. So I only listen to podcasts or audiobooks, like, while I'm doing laundry or driving or, like, doing something productive because that's my personality. It's not good. Don't take advice. It's reflecting on our most destructive behaviors. Yes, we know that what we're doing is wrong, but we're going to keep doing it anyway. Not as we do. As you've learned. Yeah. This is not nutrition related. This is life related. Yeah. I guess if this podcast as well. We'll know what content you guys really want us talking about our self destructive. Let us know if you want to hear more. Yeah, we clearly have no problem talking about any of the sharing. I was talking about the next tip though that you've probably figured out based on what we talked about is keeping your phone away from your bet. This is huge. I've tried this in the past and it has been revolutionary to me. And then I just fall back into the habit of having next to my bed. Yeah, I know. I've tried to set a rule of not even like bringing it in the bedroom, just like living in the kitchen or something. That's so smart. But it's an excuse. But I use it for my alarm. And I do have another alarm as well that I can use. I just like having the two just in case because I'm a very anxious person. So Bobby, I have two alarms always. Yeah. So is Ross. So we have four alarms go off every morning.
Participant #1:
Scary. It's pretty bad. Different times. So it's like 1 hour this was off, five minutes later another one, then an hour later mine, mine again. Yeah, I have that same thing. But I actually have an alarm clock and I really like it. But I've shifted over time to this very gentle music that wakes me up. My alarm clock is like that blaring noise. The first time I tried using it, I sat up in a heart attack. I literally thought I was under it.
Participant #1:
So I have not used it since. And of course, going back to I'm just sharing my therapist free tips. She recommended getting an alarm clock that doesn't have as scary of a noise. And I was like, that would make sense. Have not done. I know she would be right. I know she'd be very right. It's just something maybe. I don't even know how you find out the tone of alarm clocks. Can you try those out at stores? I don't know. I felt like if you got on Amazon and Typed in like soft music alarm clock, you'd find stuff that's like advertised for that. Maybe I'll go do that. Now that sounds like a fun idea. That is a fun idea. We should link one and if you guys click our link, we get a little bit of Commission. So thank you in advance. Sabotaging habits. This is a good one. This is one of our good ones. Don't support ourselves. Sabotage. It's a good habit. It says don't complete homework in bed. So this connects also to don't complete your work, work, your real world job, adult job, whatever it is you do in bed. Because then that kind of crosses those boundaries of your bed is for sleepy time. Whereas that is sleepy time. This is how my brain is functioning at this point in the week, not doing well. Yeah. This is my Friday brain. We'll get back to our Monday recordings and be in tip top shape next time. Yeah. But create that boundary between this is like what your body associates with sleep because it also could lead to you falling asleep, doing your homework or work in bed, and then that just messes up everything because I'm very confused. Yeah. Your bed is for sleeping. Some patients will tell me to eat in bed as well. Keep it all separate. Like your bed is for sleeping. Do your homework at your desk, eat at your table. Yes. Next little tip on how to improve your sleep quality and quantity is to prioritize your school, slash your work so that your sleep can be obtained at reasonable hours. So it's a pretty straightforward one. Something already kind of really touched on. But if it helps you to like, I guess Emily and I use a planner. Emily and I kind of swear by using our planners, having everything scheduled out for the day. That's very important because if you just kind of wing it, there can be a lot of overlap between your school and your work and your sleep. So really stick to your schedule in that also goes for, like when it's time for bed, you go to bed. You don't just keep doing more work or more school. Yeah. Setting boundaries is important. Yes. Next thing to note is drinking water instead of reaching for caffeinated beverages or comfort foods, especially as I feel like everyone has experiences at some point where you get really tired and you want another burst of energy with caffeine or you want some type of comfort food because you're tired, reach for water instead. Just because that caffeine and those like potentially higher carb heavy foods can affect your sleep quality. Yeah. Does caffeine still make you tired? No. I'm the opposite now. Am I not updated you? I can't remember. Maybe we did talk about this. What? Yeah. It's not crazy. Awake now or just like normal. It's like worse. What? It enhances my anxiety. I start shaking. My mind literally is like, you know, the phrase whatever. The phrase is like going out like 100 mph, whatever. Yes. That is literally my mind. Background story to everyone listening. I guess you are listening. If you're not listening, you could also look at the story. But back at the beginning of Purdue, I would drink caffeine. And like 15 minutes later I would be like I was going to pass out. I got off in like a lecture after drinking coffee, and now I don't know why that's so funny. Even after everything we've learned dietary wise, I don't know why I don't either. And now I'm the opposite where I cannot drink coffee after a certain amount of time or else I won't go to bed until 01:00 A.m., even if I stop at 01:00 p.m.. I will not go to bed until 01:00 a.m.. And now when I drink it, I literally start like physically freaking out. I get more anxious thoughts and it's very self. Another self sabotaging thing about me is I really like the flavor. I love how coffee tastes and I know the solution is to just get decal, but I'm so anxious ordering at Starbucks that I am scared to ask for decaf because I feel like I'm inhibiting them and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm causing normally the drinks are caffeinated because I always do cold brews and those have so much caffeine in them. Yeah, I don't think they have a decaf cold brew, though. I don't think they do. And I like their cold brews. I think their only decaf is like, you can do decaf because I used to experience that as well. I still do. If I have too much, I'll get super anxious. I just go crazy. If I have a couple of day, I'm perfectly fine. But I used to get like a decaf iced Americano, so they have that and I would sweeten it and add milk to it too. But I don't know if they even have like, decaf iced coffee. That's what I was going to say. I am a big iced coffee fan. No, that's what I would do is I would do the Americano iced because I didn't think they had iced coffee and they definitely don't decaf cold brew. You can buy it though. We bought it before. Yeah, that's true. Maybe I'll just do that their coffee tastes so much better than when I make it. Oh, I know, I agree. It's just nice to go get your Starbucks. It's like a fun game whenever I feel like coffee is such a social experience. We used to want to do it together all the time and then you fall asleep. So we couldn't do it that often. I'm the opposite way where I'm like, how much caffeine can I take? Where I'm going to become an anxious mess around this person? Like Russian roulette it is. The solution is definitely decaf. But there's not as many options though, in decaf. And like, you and I both love fun coffee stuff. Flavors that's typically like, I'm not normally drinking. I don't drink coffee for the caffeine. I drink coffee for the flavor. Me too. And then here we are. Like, if every option was also decaf, I would definitely just choose decaf. Same. Like if everything was available in both decaf. Yes. Starbucks, if you're listening, please make your clovers decal. Yeah. So I don't have like an anxiety attack every time. I know we're not alone on this if all the others say the same. Oh no, I feel very seen when I see people posting about this or like, is it going to be like a good day or am I going to have a freak out? Oh yeah. I like to know when it happens. I know exactly what you're talking about. That was a weird feeling. It's so crazy. I used to be really bad. More bad habits. And I drink coffee days of, like, interviews, which was a terrible idea because I'm already stressed. And then I start thinking worst case scenarios, and I'm, like, shaking and freaking out. Hi, I'm Emily. Yeah, I start, like, sweating sometimes. Oh, yeah. I'm like, I am going to decombox. Is this my body, like, failing me? So Ross and I make our own cold brew. That's what I have almost every day. But if we don't go through it fast enough, we usually do. But once in a while, we decided to get Starbucks one day, and we get the next day as well. And so the cold brew sits in the fridge for a long time. We just let it brew. Those are the times that I can taste colors. Like, it's crazy. I feel so insane. I can't imagine that because I brewed my own coffee, like, a couple of months ago. I feel very cool. I don't even know if I actually brewed it. I just put the grounds in, like, a coffee maker. Water went through it. That's how you get it, right. But I just keep mine in Mason jars, but then I like to put them in the fridge. I can't even imagine letting it. Soak I would probably have an ounce, and I'd be, like, freaking out. Yeah. I think the most I've had it. Soak is, like, five days in cold brew grounds. And I'm like, yeah, it's not good. That's delicious. I told Ross I want an espresso machine. So imagine me on espresso. That would not be good. So give this podcast episode a like or follow us to support Hammond's dreams of getting this machine. By doing so, she'll be closer to getting espresso and not exactly her cold brew for five days. Yeah. I need this. This is important. Do it for Hannah. If you truly love us and you believe in what we're doing here, please just leave a like, and that will support my dreams. I just see all the TikToks of all the Nespressos. They're all so pretty, and I just want one of my dad. I love when they put the grounds in the thing and they Pat it down. I want to be a barista so bad. When I was an intern, we have to do food service. And so at my hospital, it's humongous. They have, like, a Starbucks section. And so we sold Starbucks coffee. I had to be a barista for, like, three different days. It was terrible. It was so stressful. Oh, I'm sure the drinks are so complex. I remember all of them. People come so fast. Oh, it's terrible. So if I ever was a brief, I want to do it at my own pace. In my own kitchen. Yes. Not for others. No. That would stress me out too much. It's terrible you being between them and coffee. There are people that are like, oh, I like coffee money. And then there are people that are like, I can't function without my coffee. One, they need a life intervention. You should not have to rely on this little liquid beverage to function. Let's do some self reflection, maybe get some sleep. Yeah, maybe sleep is the issue potentially. Could be died. Hairy reflect. And then I forgot what point I was going with this. Oh, yes. Like, the fact of being a barista. And I have seen so many stories about, like, people just mistreating baristas because one, this is a controversial statement, but the whole phrase, the customer is always right. Never in food service. No. We have done so much time in food service that there is probably a 5% chance that maybe a Cook messed something up or someone made something wrong, like making a drink. But most of the time, the customer either doesn't know what they're ordering, they order it incorrectly, or they forget what they ordered. Yeah. And then they take it out on those poor food service workers who are not getting paid enough to deal with them. No, I remember my first job was at a Taco Bell. And in my interview, I said, the customer is always right. And I got the job. My husband there. So it paid off. But I think about it all the time. I'm like, oh, little 16 year old Hannah. Yeah. But, like, at least I personally think that everyone should have experienced food service so that they have a good appreciation for what they do. Because now I will never be mean to a food service person. Oh, no. Unless they're mean to me. Even then, if they're mean to me, I'm like, you're probably right.
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No matter what, I'll be like, I'm sorry. I'll always take it. Yeah. Be nice, your barista. I know I've said this before, but be nice to food service workers, especially now they're going through a lot. We should do a fundraiser podcast episode someday and give all our money to food service workers somehow. Is there, like, an organization we can give too? There should be. I don't know what it would be because I want to make sure it goes to them and not like their corporate boss. Yeah. Who probably won't give them the money or a raise. No. Maybe we could do an internship. Like, if you're a food service worker, you can come work for us and we'll pay you. But then they're still working for us. So it's not like we're actually giving them that much. I don't know. Let's figure it out. We want to help. We want to help all the food service workers. Our hearts out there. We just don't know how to, like, we literally have one bullet point left on this, and we just can't seem to get there. Okay, last mine. Put your health first. Get your sleep. It's obviously very important. It's so good for your nutrition. It'll help with that. With your choices. There being consistent with it. It'll help with your academic or work performance. It'll help with athletic performance, good for mental health. Get your sleep. Yeah, that's all. But we have a bonus question, so don't wait. Yes. So I'm excited for today's bonus question because I don't know your answer. So the question is, I don't know if this is a preference or what's the best type, but we can just kind of. Okay, preference, I think. Yeah. What do you prefer regarding soda? Also sign out again, soda versus pop argument. I am from Chicago suburbs. I do not say pop. Pop is weird when you say pop. I think snap crack will pop the noise. We say pop where I'm from, but I hate it, though. I don't want to say pop. So with patients now in work, like, when I work, I say soda. If I'm at home, I'll be like, do you want pop? No, I don't even say that. I'm transitioning. I grew up saying pop, but I don't like it. I think I said it for, like maybe less than ten times in my life and it felt wrong. Do you want some pop? It's like you're going to get punched pop. People that freak me out more are people that call soda Coke. Like all soda. I hate that thing. Right. I think it's an older generation thing. It's a Boomer thing. I don't know. I have no, I thought it was like South Carolina, like that kind of region maybe. I don't know if you're from South Carolina. I'm speculating same too. I don't know. We have our second most geographic location of listeners is Australia. I wonder what they call it. Please, if you're from Australia, please tell us what you call that sugary carbonated beverage. I think they call it bubbly or something really cool like that. You want some bubbly? Oh, that'd be cool. Well, bubbly is now also a carbonated water brand. True. That's kind of new. It's like Australians have probably been doing it first. It's true. They were here first. They beat the bubbly. Anyway, back to the question. Oh, my gosh, I had to really go on like that rank. I was like, well, I'm glad when I wrote down the question, I wrote down soda and didn't send you into a fire. I'd be like, what is you probably would have, like, crossed it out with that little function so I could see you crossed it out and then written soda next to it. Just so you know. Yeah, but Hannah, what is your preference with soda? Do you prefer canned soda, bottled salt bottled soda or fountain soda? Okay, I got this question idea from a podcast, from an episode of Good Mythical Morning. Do you watch that? It's a YouTube channel. I've watched it for, like literally ten years. It's like these two guys that just like food reviews and like fun food stuff. Oh, I think you talked about this. Yes. So they did an episode where they did, like a blind taste test of canned bottles and fountain. Yes, we should. If we ever live in the same area, this podcast will be a whole other level. Yeah. You guys don't even know. Please like this podcast. Please follow this podcast so Hannah can get an espresso machine and we can live close together so we can do a lot more because we are very limited being in different States when we drink wine over Zoom. That was so sad, but so cute. That was cute. I liked that episode. That was a good episode. Go watch that. Go listen to that. Do you think alcohol is? Do you think doing alcohol is cool? I don't know what episode number that is, but it's like. It's like seven or something. Seven is keto. I have that cemented in my brain because we said eleven. I enjoy it so much. Maybe. I don't know. We'll figure it out. Yeah. Just scroll down and the list is there somewhere. It's an early one. Yeah. Okay. But I think my answer is going to be fountain. I think I like fountain Soda's the best. That's my final answer. I actually have a direct answer for one. Nice. I'm going to say can because I like opening it.
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Experience. It's typically always bubbly, like carbonated or sometimes I feel like some bottled soda isn't always carbon. Sometimes it gets flat. Sorry. Sometimes it gets flat. Fountain soda, I think. I just don't like drinking out of those plastic paper cups. I always use a straw if I do that, which I know is bad for the turtles. I apologize. Please like this podcast so I can get more metal straws. Honestly, what if we had cut straws? Would you guys buy those? I would buy those. I would too. I feel like everyone can use some more metal straws in their life. I know, but how would it really be our brand? Just like our colors? Maybe we could do like a silver one and then just do, like red, Orange and yellow. Yeah, that'd be so cute. Or the really cool ones that change color and the light. Those are cool. I don't know where you get those, but we'll find it. We'll figure it out like this.
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We sound so desperate today. Please help us. We've really opened our hearts and our lives. Maybe we should record on Fridays more often. Yeah, this will be more fun. We're very vulnerable on Fridays. Yeah. I mean, by the end of the week, I'm like, ready to share my life story. Mondays, not so much. Whoever will listen, which is you guys. You guys chose to listen to this. Just remember that we did not force upon you. I agree. I think Bounty is definitely number two in my mind. Yeah, I think bottled is third. I agree with that. I just love those Coke machines where you can pick from the hundreds of themes of all the different stuff. I love those. Those are so cool. Yeah. I will always like if we go to Q Dobo, for example, they have one I'll get like a little bit of something, drink that and then go back like ten different times. Like just keep getting different sample sizes of ten different beverages. Yeah,
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that's about it. I feel like we should wrap this up. We definitely should. We should have like 20 minutes ago. Okay, cool. Thank you for listening today. We appreciate all of your support. You don't have to like this podcast if you don't want to. Of course that was a joke. Please know that was a joke. Do whatever your heart desires and you'll hear from us next week. That was such a long pause because I always say we'll see you next week, but I'm not seeing anyone. I know if they watch on YouTube, they'll see us. That's true. Which is like a 10th of our listeners. But that's okay. It's a podcast. We expect that. Yeah, but you guys didn't know. If you're new here, we have some new listeners. We're also on YouTube to watch us. We're not together. We're in separate cities. But it's still fun to watch us. Yeah, you can watch our live reactions, the things we say. Yeah. Okay, guys, thank you so much for listening. I see your struggle now. It's hard to say we'll see you next week because they want to say anyway, we'll see you next week, you know. All right, everyone. Bye bye.
