Episode 16: What Does a Personal Trainer Do, Anyway? with Brendan Adams, CPT

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Participant #1:

Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Upbeat Dietitians Podcast with Emily and Hannah. Hi, guys. Welcome back. We are here today with another very special guest we have with us, Brendan Adams. We're so excited about this. We're going to go over with Brendan today. What it's like being a personal trainer, the difference between exercise and physical activity and things like that. So we'll kind of jump right in. But Brendan and I met when we were both at Purdue. We both started there as what's called fitness consultants, or fitCons, which are one of the cool kids. And then we both became personal trainers as well. And we both currently are actively acting as personal trainers as well in our jobs. But Brendan, tell us about kind of what you're up to these days and what you're doing for work and all that good stuff. Yeah, I just graduated from Purdue. We're about actually a year ago, almost on the dot today. It's been a crazy year, but graduated with my degree in Kinesiology with a clinical concentration. I could get more hands on experience because I knew I wanted to be a personal trainer, basically from the get go. So I got my degree. I was a personal trainer there for about three years, and this past year I've been training at a couple of different places like La Fitness. I move to Colorado for a job at any time fitness, but currently in between jobs about to move to Chicago to start at Equinox as a tier two trainer. So I'm really excited about that move. It's kind of the next step in my progression of just being the best trainer I can be to help as many people as I can, because that's why I got the job. I love helping people with their exercise and what are the goals they have. So, yeah, that's what I'm up to. And that's what I'm going to be doing here soon. That's awesome. That's very awesome. Actually, I think you're our first. I don't know what's going to come out exactly if it's going to be in the right order. But as we're recording this, you're our first personal trainer we've had on Besides myself, of course, but it'll be good to get an exercise perspective. We talk a lot about nutrition. Of course. That would be good to get side of things. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Let's jump right in. So will you tell us about what a personal trainer is and kind of the process of becoming a personal trainer as well? Absolutely. So the most important detail is a personal trainer, someone with a certification from any verifiable and legal source. So some examples are Ace, NASM and ACSM. Acsm is what we used at Purdue, but I got my Ace certification before I graduated, so I could be a personal trainer at Purdue. So personal trainer is somebody with a certification that can help basically anybody. They coach them through exercise routines, healthy habits and such. I am not a dietitian. Therefore, I cannot meal plan for people, but I can tell them, hey, stop eating cake 24/7 and maybe add some vegetables to your diet. You might feel a little bit better. General things like that, we can help. I like to think of it more as a fitness coach is kind of another term like to throw around there because it's not just exercise that we always deal with. That is our 90% to 95% of our priority. But a lot of our other duties go to some people are like, hey, what should I be doing on my off days? What should be doing with this? And so I'm like, hey, on your off days, maybe a rest day, but don't just lie in bed all day because that's not going to do much for you. Go stretch to do something like lightly active. So personal trainer in the scope of things is basically somebody that can take you through an exercise and has a certification that can be trusted because there's a lot of misinformation and people out there that just get big or get strong and just start throwing things out there. Not personal trainers. Sorry to burst their bubble, but the certification is one of the most important parts, and I really like to hit on the personal side of things as well because just from experience, clients aren't going to listen to you unless they like you. So you have to be personable and you have to be able to understand every different client is different. It's a personal trainer personal to each individual person. So I may have 20 clients, but each one is going to have a different exercise routine based on their goals and needs, and I'm going to treat them all a little bit differently based on what they want. I adapt my training style and my attitude a little bit for what each person needs. And in my personal scope, I think that's what a good personal trainer can do. Yeah, we'll wrap it up there. That's what personal training is. Yeah. It's so important. It's the same with being an Rd, too. To customize your approach for every single person. You just had some blanket approach for everyone. You probably only have one or two that approach for them. Yeah. Exactly. That's really important. I really like how you mentioned that even if you have 20 different clients, you're not giving them all the same exercise plan, and you're tailoring it basically to their strengths and weaknesses, because a lot of people I feel like kind of just at least I've seen on social media. There's a lot of different workout plans that I've seen, and I'm not nearly as educated either of you. So I was like, what would this help me or what? So I think that's really important, too, especially acknowledge with personal trainers, because it's more than just writing a workout plan and handing it out absolutely 100%.

Participant #1:

Okay. Cool. Well, speaking of while we're on the topic, kind of go through with us the different kinds of personal trainers, and along with the different fields that CPTs can work in. So I'll kind of start with just normal personal training, what you think of and what you expect off the bat, that's just someone that you come into the gym. You meet them for, like, an hour or so. They take you through an entire workout, maybe even write a workout program for you to do one days that you're not there with them, because, let's be honest, not everyone's got a bunch of money to burn nowadays. Not everyone is going to be able to come three to five times per week with a personal trainer. So not only just making programs, but being able to specialize in a certain field. So my specialization as a personal trainer is like strength building strength, building a little bit of muscle, too, is kind of my secondary. My true share would probably be with loss, helping clients cut some fat down, get the healthier shape. But those are kind of the top three that you'll see from personal trainers. There's also competition prep for, like, bodybuilding and or power lifting, something I got into for a while. Any sort of preparation for any sort of competition personal trainer should be able to help with and then also, like a Billy, which kind of goes into other jobs outside of the normal personal trainer that you'll see. So, like, with my degree, I don't just have to go be a personal trainer at a gym. I could work my way up into management somehow. If that's something I want to do, you usually have to start down as a trainer understand the club, everything that goes on within it. But other jobs. You can continue school and go do patient therapy, physical therapy, things like that where your personal training experience will help, but it's way more tailored to, like, injuries and things like that, especially with physical therapy. There's also sports coaching all the way from, like elementary high school College up to the pros. There's also teaching. I mean, all of our professors at Purdue, they were personal trainers. Once upon a time, they have their certifications, which is something I honestly think I might get into later in my 30s, 40s. That's cool. Oh, my God. One of my favorite parts of my job as the lead trainer at Purdue was I got to help with the Ace course. I've been able to tell other trainers how to do things correctly and see them help their clients make progress. It's a trickle down system. And so if I can help them by teaching them right things and they help everybody else, it was the greatest feeling watching the soon to be trainers kind of develop and grow in that system so I could see myself doing it, not locking myself into it. That's definitely another route you can go and also like physical education. So like elementary school teachers, stuff like that or even like high school teachers. If I'm honest, I would love to do that as well. But the money is just not there. The only reason I really want to do is because most high school sports coaches don't have the right certifications, and they're teaching kids bad things at a young age, where 90% of my, like, 18 to 25 year old clients that I've worked with from, I have to just unteach the bad habits first. And so if we teach kids good habits from the get go when they're in high school sports, it'd be so much easier to see progress with so many more people. But money is not quite there with anything when it comes to, like, high schools. Unfortunately, my mother's a teacher. I know that. So I find myself more in the personal training area instead of the physical education. But there's a ton of things you can do with that. That's only a couple, just the ones off the top of my head. So there's a big scope you can utilize it with. But the first thing that it comes to when you're in this profession is practicing what you preach. That's what I'm never going to tell a client or anybody in any of these jobs, anything that I wouldn't or cannot do. Now, if a client is way more advanced than I am, they can do, like, backlits and handstands out of wazoo. Like, cool. I'll train them and I'll research some stuff and help them out. But I still have to be able to practice. Like, if I tell my clients to eat their vegetables and all I'm doing is eating steak and I guess potatoes or vegetables. But

Participant #1:

if I'm not practicing what I preach to my clients and especially if they found that out, they're going to be like, okay, well, why do I have to do this? Is a little unfair, which, to be fair, everything is unfair about fitness and health. To a degree, everyone's a little bit different and everyone starts out in the same place. I kind of just naturally fell in love with what I did. I was really skinny when I first started really thin, and I just started gaining weight, whereas a lot of people have different struggles. So things aren't going to be fair, but it's really important to be at least practice what you preach to your clients and make sure that they know that you are living a lifestyle that they also want to live because they know that you're not. They're more likely to give up from what I've seen. Right?

Participant #1:

Absolutely. Trying your best to be in their shoes, even though you can't be it's totally different situation, but trying your best to understand where they're coming from and relating to them the best you can is always helpful, too. Absolutely. That was a great overview. There's so much you can do. People often think that they're in the gym growing it up, but there's so much more you can do as a trainer. Absolutely. Yeah. So I think that kind of leads into our next topic of the importance of exercise overall. And we wanted to hear from you why exercise is important for every individual and what your two cent are on that. Oh, absolutely. So again, this is tailored to every different person is going to have a different workout routine, things that work with them. When it comes to exercise, there's so many benefits, not just physical, but cognitive, mentally, emotionally. It's my favorite distresser whenever I'm feeling, like, really amped up after a day of work and I haven't worked out yet. It's so nice to be able to go work out that's what started as for me was I just need a place to go destress and exercise always help me do that. And I knew it did with sports, but it's always important when it comes to each individual person, find out what works for you. I go to the gym four to six days per week, depending on what my structure. My plan is that I make for myself. Some people don't need that many times. Some people just want to go in three days a week and whatever their goals are is whatever we need to have them do. So when it comes to exercise, we have to think about everything, not just the physical aspect. You're not just going in there to look as big and as nice as you can every single time. You got to also implement the cognitive benefits and the emotional benefits as well, something I always focus on with all my clients when I first start with them is okay. What do you want to accomplish? And like, what are you doing right now? And we go through what a healthy routine is going to be for them. I'm not going to throw somebody that hasn't worked out in three months in there for six days a week doing crazy stuff, right? We're going to start them out slow. And even when it comes to the eating aspect, I don't feel planned for my clients. However, nutrition is important for them, so I'll be like, hey, what have we been eating today? And half the time my clients will be like, I've had a granola bar today, and I'm like, energy wise. You're going to struggle to this workout and we're going to see it happen about half an hour when you start to struggle. So building those healthy habits to be able to exercise efficiently is one of these foundations. You have to go before you can get into hitting those higher goals. So a little bit of free exercise explanation when it comes to exercise, it's just the kind of benefits you feel better. You're usually more focused right after you work out. So I would always work out and then go study for an exam when I was at Purdue, and it actually helped a ton with my focus specifically. So things such as that also just making sure that your body is in good shape. I think everybody knows if you are morally obese, you're going to have some health risks. So being able to find a consistent routine to keep your body in shape and healthy, to avoid those risks now and or later on, we're in our 20s. We don't have much to worry about right now, but building a healthy routine now can help us keep those at Bay for longer and longer. One of the best stories I always tell my clients is my dad was up to £400 when I was in high school and he hadn't worked out, like, 1015 years. Then he finally decided that he was going to go and start dieting, right? And then going back to the gym and everything. And it changed not only his physical appearance and his health risks, like his doctor was like, oh, you're cleared on this, this and this. Now you're no longer at risk for that, but also like, his mental and emotional health. And that's why I focused so much on it because he's willing to admit he was not the best dad when I was growing up. But once he started losing weight, he started feeling better about himself. And he started being able to cope with everything because he had a stress relief area, a place you could go and be happy. So I really stress that with people, exercise doesn't need to be insanely tough every day. It needs to be enjoyable as much as it can. So one of my favorite things when it comes to exercising with clients is hey, what do you like to do? What do we like to do? A lot of my female clients like, I love to do legs and I love to do this cool. We'll do legs more often than a normal split or we'll do more full body days. You can get more leg work in even if it's not quite tailored to exactly what their goals are. If they enjoy it, they're going to be consistent. They are going to stay in the gym. Health risks go away. They're happier. Everything kind of comes full circle to where exercise benefits you in every single way when it comes to your personal health. As long as you go about it the right ways. So it's really important to find out what matters to you and what is doable for you as well, because not everyone get in the gym six days a week will have different jobs and stuff. Not everyone can go to the gym for 2 hours at a time. Like a lot of gym go in there and they just shut around for 2 hours, do whatever. You only have an hour a day. So finding out what works with all of that is what's so important about exercise, because if you have a healthy relationship with that. I've heard you guys talk about having a healthy relationship with food all the time as well. You got to have a healthy relationship with the things that are meant to be healthy or else they won't be

Participant #1:

retweet. I just had a flashback of us messing around at the Co Wreck for like 3 hours, doing literally nothing. I would be there for three to 4 hours freshman year because I would just be so bored. I didn't have any friends yet. I didn't have much to do. There was one Saturday. I was there from eight till two and I was like, what am I doing? What am I doing now? I was not working the whole time. I would just hang out and talk to people, but still, some people don't need the efficiency, though. If that's what you like to do, just hang out at the gym for a while and you're still hitting your goals. Go do it. Go have fun with your friends after that peak like six to nine hour time. If you want to be the whole time with your friends, go do it. That's what makes you happy. But if you're not hitting your goals and or like you're doing that, but then you go home and don't eat dinner or whatever because you don't have time, then that becomes a problem. But again, everything about this job that I have like, I think with you guys'jobs as well is every individual person I meet. I have to start fresh. I can't just recycle anything. Each individual person needs individual goals, mindsets, different things for everything. I can have people do the exact same workout and as long as I verify it with myself and like, okay, yeah, this would work for their goals. It's the exact same stuff. Then I'll do that and or just tweak it a little bit. But for the most part, I start from scratch each individual person from the get go, because each person is a different person, like no one for humans the same. It's beautiful. But it also makes things a little bit more challenging, but fun at the same time. Right there's. The basics. Same with us, too. I work at a weight loss clinic. So the basics are we focus on calorie intake and we go over all the food groups and that kind of stuff. But it is, of course, tailored each person based on how active they are and what food they eat, meal timing, all of that. But, yeah, the basics are usually the same. I mean, it is a science. So going right off of that, what is the difference between exercise and physical activity? So exercise tends to have a structure. It's intentional. It's planned. And it's usually repetitive movements in order to hit a certain goal. So if I'm doing a squat, you know, I'm trying to gain leg strength. I'm doing the exact same motion repetitively with a purpose. In order my leg strength up. Physical activity is going to be more like anything you do that expends energy. Getting out of bed. Physical activity, cooking breakfast is physical activity. This is physical activity. Anything that requires any sort of energy, which everything does mean moving in my mouth. Right now, it does is considered physical activity. So if you're just moving your body with no rhythm, no rhyme, just doing whatever you want to do. That's physical activity. But if you're doing something physical that has a structure, a plan, a purpose that's going to be what we consider exercise. Yes, it's so important to differentiate the two. And I don't think people know the difference. Like, a lot of my patients and clients, I think just get overwhelmed. I think they have to, like, seven days a week, have this hour of structured exercise where I'm like, no, just be more physically active and that will have benefits as well. But of course, when I say that, I mean, like going for a walk, that kind of thing. But it is good to differentiate the two. Okay, well, we touched on this a little bit earlier, but of course, as a trainer, you don't go too much into nutrition. But what is the importance of adequate nutrition when you are working on your fitness goals? So I'll go personal for a little bit. My nutrition was pretty bad after leaving College for a while. For some reason, when I had a more like hectic around schedule, I actually ate better. It's crazy, but especially when I was stuck at home or, like, I had, like, ten hour shifts at work all day, and I had to bring my lunches and stuff when I got home. I didn't want to Cook food anymore, so I'd eat out and everything, and it slowly just took a toll on the way. I felt like I can still hit my goals. I can still look good with my workouts to still get through them. But I didn't feel great during my workouts, and I didn't feel good every other aspect of it as well. It's really sad. I just started eating more broccoli a couple of months ago. I just started adding added broccoli into my diet, and I felt amazingly better. It was stupid how well broccoli works. Instead of just having chicken and pasta, I would have some chicken with broccoli instead every now and then as well. Because carbs are still important. I need a ton of carbs for how much muscle I've gained and how big I am now. But also carbs. Broccoli has got some good carbs. I'm just going to hype up broccoli because broccoli has been doing wonders for me. Shout out to broccoli, shout out to my boy broccoli. So anytime we wouldn't go into, like, meal planning with people, we talk about things they couldn't have. We had a little diagram that had worse foods on the outside. Good foods on the inside, like protein, carbs fat. Because a lot of our clients were older women who just don't eat protein at all. And they were like, oh, yeah, I want to get stronger. I want to gain some muscle because they go pretty weak and we're like, okay, cool. Eat some protein and they're like, protein. You're going to have to eat some protein. Sorry if you want these goals. So at least understanding what they are consuming is really important for our aspect as well. So again, I don't tell them, go home, have a cup of chicken, have a cup of broccoli. Don't have broccoli whenever you want. I'm going to talk broccoli the next couple of days, but I can kind of help them through the process. And they're like, hey, I had eggs and some toast this morning, so I got my carbs and some protein. I'm like, excellent. How do you feel? And they're like, I actually feel pretty good. Like, this workout went well, and I'm like, that's crazy half the time. I just have to tell most of my clients to eat, which is really depressing, but I'm the same way. Sometimes since I've been unemployed some days, I'll be like, oh, my gosh, it's noon, and I haven't eaten lunch yet. And then I'm like, I don't really want to make lunch, and I understand the struggle sometimes of, like, it can be exhausting, but it always feels so much more worth it once you get into a healthy routine. So that's what I preach to everybody is just finding what works for you and building upon it, making sure we're hitting our goals. So we have some clients that based on recommendations they're supposed to hit 2000 calories a day but they're barely hitting 1000 right now, and I'm like, okay, well, we're not going to just double your caloric intake the next week or two. We're going to slowly build it over time, so you don't feel like you're bloated and like, you're going to pop 24/7 because that's what's going to happen. Double your caloric intake. And again, I'm going to sound like a broken record all day, but it's just the way it is. Each person just needs to be talked to and dealt with for what works for them. Like vegetarian clients, finding ways to get their protein in. Because when you're vegetarian meat is probably the number one source of protein eating around the world. I could be wrong on that. I haven't done any research, but it's what we think about when you think about bodybuilders. They're eating chicken, like they're eating chicken and some sort of carb. Anyways, just making sure that each person has what fits their needs and giving them good recommendations and just checking in on them. That's all that we really can do. From my perspective. Luckily, at Equinox, they actually have an opportunity for us to get, like, some Dietetics training and likes and nutrition training so we can go a little more in depth. But I don't think we won't be full flips dietitians. I mean, I'm not going to go through five more years of school. I won't do it. But long story short, again, it's just making sure each person has what they need and making sure that they feel good coming in. That's the biggest thing is if you don't feel good while you're exercising or after your exercise or before you want to feel as good as you can as much as you can. That's honestly, the goal with exercise everything is to try to get your body to love itself and for you to love your body. So I'll leave it at that. Yeah. You're speaking our language there. Yes, you're exactly right. You can't reach your fitness goals without adequately fueling your body so important that the two are going together, you cannot out exercise a very poor diet. No, I like that a lot. You said that. I'm sure I saw that from a meme or something. I've heard that a million times, too. But that's Hannah, it's Hannah's original thought. I would like to see some compensation for that from somewhere. That is my quote. Everyone has been using it up, but whatever. I don't know who'd give you that money, but we'll just take that

Participant #1:

we are wrapping up here on our question. So really our last big question for you, what is an exercise professional or, I guess, your own personal professional strategy for discussing and working towards weight loss of clients. So that can be tricky because, of course, weight stigma plays a huge role in mental health and their performance. And just day to day life in general. And so just curious about how you do approach that with clients working towards weight loss goals. I'm really annoying when I first meet with clients and we always talk about their goals, right? And when someone comes to me, they're like, I want to lose some weight. Doesn't matter who it is. I've had people that come in and they honestly follow me to gain some weight. But they said they want to lose some weight, that's people that definitely need to lose some weight. And first thing I do is I go, why? And then they have to come up with why exactly. It is that they want to lose weight. Some people, like my doctor told me to, right. And then there's not a lot of intrinsic motivation. It's just kind of like I've been told I need to do this, so I probably need to do it. Some people are like, I want to look good or I know I need to make a change in my life. I don't feel great figuring out why they want to lose weight is the first big step, because that's how you're going to motivate somebody in a training session and outside of a training session because my job is not done. When the person leaves from their session. I like to keep in contact with people as much as I can, especially my one on one clients that I train with because I want to make sure that they're living a good, healthy lifestyle. I'm not super annoying outside, but when they are with me, first thing I ask them is why. And then when they tell me why, for example, it's told me to lose weight, I'm like, okay, well, is there any other reason why you want to lose weight? Is there anything really motivating you? I ask about they have a spouse that is supporting them. I ask what's their routine look like right now. So I'm trying to see what they are doing because again, there are some people that come in here and they don't need to lose weight. And they're like, I just run on the treadmill for an hour a day. And then again, I'd probably ask them about their eating like, okay, what are you eating right now? I'm like a granola bar and an Apple a day. I'm trying to cut my calories down and we get all the information and then we go from there. But you have to just ask those primary questions to get to understand what's going on in their head, because again, your body will only do what your mind allows it to do. And if your mental health isn't in check and you're not having a healthy relationship from the get go, it's going to be so much harder to stick with it and want to stick with it. Because a lot of people only do personal training for, like, six months to a year. And once they're done, if they go back to unhealthy habits, they're going to start losing their progress. So getting down to one the why they want to lose weight, what they're doing right now and then discussing the habits that they have and what some better habits might look like. Not everyone is going to have the same structure as we talked about. I'm not going to tell everybody. Okay. Eat five meals a day, do this this, but I'm going to do. Okay. So with what you're doing right now, we probably need to increase our caloric intake or decrease our caloric intake based on what it is. I need to increase the exercise we do and then go from there. Some people have multiple goals, too. So we're like, I'm going to lose weight. I want to gain muscle and you can do both at the same time pretty effectively, but their training will look a lot different than somebody who just wants to lose weight, someone who just wants to lose weight. We're going to give them probably some hit training, some high intensity intervals to where they're just working hard. Heart rates going up and down for 30 minutes to an hour, whereas someone who wants to gain muscle prime some strength and weight training as well. So the work is going to be a little bit longer, but still going to try to make them as intense as we can in order to promote core. So that way they're out working whatever they're consuming in order to see that weight loss. Yeah. I love that. You said finding the why? Because if that one little number on the scale is the only thing motivating you, you're going to be motivated for, like, five minutes before you're over it and want to move on to the next thing. So it's just not going to last unless you have another. I like to go over with my patients. Non scale victories, too. So number on the scale is doing whatever. Sure, we'll look at that and use that as one point of data about how your clothes fitting. Are you moving easier, breathing better. Are you losing inches? Are you getting more body fat or not? Body fat, more muscle mass and focusing on those things can be really more motivating than the scale, which can be so easily influenced and kind of do whatever the heck it wants. I'm really glad you said that, too, because it's also a scale of a robot that we told what to do. It can break, and it doesn't work for every single person. I've probably gotten healthier since I've gained weight in my life, but if I just looked at a scale, I was a wrestler. I had to be at a certain weight all the time. I was obsessed with my weight in high school because I had to hit a weight class like I had to sit in my weight class, and I was one of those kids. I wouldn't go to bed unless I was under the weight, so they were nice. I just didn't eat and looking back, I'm like, wow, you idiot, you stupid idiot. What were you doing? I didn't know any better. Anytime fitness. It was like an in body assessment. We had to Purdue. It's called an evil. It's a body scan. And there are some times where clients are like, I'm really looking forward to this body scan. My clothes are fitting different. I'm feeling good. And then the scan tells them they've made no progress and so much influences those scans too. At one point, I just told people I'm like, Screw the robot. Are you feeling better? Are you happier? Are you doing okay? And they're like, yeah, I did 20 push ups the first time in eight years. The other day unbroken. And Michael was just getting better. And I'm happier. And I'm like, who gives a crap what the robot says? It's a robot. You and I, we've made some progress and we should be able to be thankful for that and be happy about it. Celebrate the victories that the robots don't tell us, because the way you perceive the why if people are only worried about the way they look, which is fine. If you want to improve the way you look, that's what you want to do. Then who cares what the scale says? Who cares what the body scan says. If you feel better and look better and happier, those are things that matter so much more. I told my sister the other day because she was getting obsessed about it and it was just ticking me off to throw away her scale. And she's like, I feel better than I have in a while because I just don't worry about it anymore. She spent like, five times a day. She'd go to the bathroom and just worry about her weight. And I'm like, you're going to fluctuate £2 a day give or take anyway, you don't need to be checking it that much again. 15 year old for me to be a hypocrite in that sense. But I'm not 15 years old anymore, but it's so important just to be able to accept what your body is doing and changing and not just trusting the robots. I hate the robots. They're good in certain circumstances. Don't get me wrong. The body scans can be pretty accurate, but push comes to shove. I'm going to tell you if you're looking and feeling better, those are the top two things that matter almost every time. I am so stealing that robot thing. I love that. Don't trust me. Don't trust the past two months that I worked at any time. That's just what I started doing because some people are making such great strides in our sessions. And then also, I haven't worn this shirt in, like, a year, and then they come in and they'd only have lost a pound of fat or, like, some of them won't have lost anything based on a scan. And I'm like, just screw the robot. Do you feel better? Do you feel happy? Like that scan just ruin your day. And they're like, yeah, because I have made progress. I'm like, yes, you have. Shut up some of my clients. I'd get pretty dislike up front. Be like, shut up. You know that you're being dumb right now and you know that we only care about those other things and they're like, yeah, you're right. And then after we'd have our ship, they'd be like, you know what? I'm glad that we talked about this. And that's super important. Again. It's that mental aspect is so important with every single client, every person, too. I don't have to be my client. But if someone's like, I haven't lost any weight the past week, I work out consistently, and I just over here that we're like, do you feel any better? Like, ask the important questions? Not just how much do I weigh. And this is all fairly new. Like, fitness has made huge strides the past, just like, ten years, and we've got to kind of experience the more intelligent aspects of it growing up into it because there's a lot of old school methods, like weighing yourself three times a day. That just we found that aren't great for every aspect of your health. So it's really important to take the important victories over the robotic victories. Yeah, you're exactly right. I feel like that was such a good way to finish up. This episode is really the emphasis on how you're feeling and not what those robots are saying.

Participant #1:

There's been so many robot apocalyptic movies like, Don't Trust the Robot. They've only heard us. They've only heard us in so many ways. Technology is great, but we have to take that little grain of salt every time. Okay, so I think we're ready now for our bonus question. And, Brandon, you can get as heated as you want in this because I kind of want to do a podcast on these questions because I'm talking about nutrition and fitness. But I also love talking about is a hot dog a sandwich? Yes. Just make an extra bonus question only episode where you just, like, stitch them all together. People don't want to list anything else. We're saying you can cut that out. I didn't say it was your idea. Okay, so our bonus question this week is what is the best fast food condiment? It's right here. What is that? I came prepared. You guys gave me a reason to get raisin Canes today, and I went for it. Raisin Canes sauce. It's delicious over my laptop. For those of you listening and not watching on YouTube, Brendan just spilled raising cane sauce everywhere. We're going to leave it there because it's too good to clean up right now. I like, watch that happen in slow motion. I did, too. I saw it move, and I was playing idiot. Why did you do this? Wasn't intelligent at all. It's a liquid it's going to move out of the container anyway. It's raising cane sauce. You can't tell me any different cane sauce. What does it taste like so much, but it's like, sweet, and it's peppery to a degree. Hold on. Let me get another lick right now. Take it right off the laptop. It's for? No, that is tainted sauce. The sauce is too good to be tainted. We can't let the dirty laptop ruin the cane sauce. Screw the robot. Yes, screw the robot. But it's pretty tangy. It's got kind of like a good kick to it. How else would I describe it? Hold on. Let me just get another. Just start drinking it. I know you want to. Yeah,

Participant #1:

it's got kind of, like, in between mayonnaise and Ranch consistency. So it's, like, thick enough without being too thick. But a little peppery kick at the end. They just go like,

Participant #1:

everyone knows what I'm talking about. You have something nice, just like it gives you a little bit of, like, a Tingle in your mouth. That's raising cane sauce. Not a huge fan of the word Tingle, but I get what you're saying. Yeah. I mean, there are many other words I could have used, but that was the best.

Participant #1:

I know I can't really say that one worse than my choice, but I'm curious. Emily, what your top favorite is? So my top favorite is Burger King Zesty sauce, because I'm a big fan of horseradish. And also, you always get zesty sauce with the onion rings. And I am a huge fan of their onion rings. And I think in the last at least six years of my life, anytime I go to burger, I only get onion rings for the best sauce. And sometimes I'll get, like, extra zesty sauce, and my onion rings will be, like, very coated.

Participant #1:

Is that different from Arby's Horsey sauce? I've never had that sauce. I don't know Arby's very well. I feel like it is. It sounds like it is based on the name. It's also a lot like this. That's actually a good description of cane sauce. It's very zesty. It's kind of like the zesty sauce. So I think you'd like it a lot. Okay. It gives you that zesty Tingle. It's got to go get a Por shaddish kick. The team

Participant #1:

don't love that. I don't either. Again, it was the best one I could think of on the spot. It works. Okay, Hannah, here you go. I thought so hard about this before I even asked Ross what he thought I should say, because I just don't know. That's not your opinion. Come on. We have the exact same taste preference. That's why we got married anyway. That's the only reason

Participant #1:

it's such a basic answer. I feel like a loser, but Chickfila sauce is probably my favorite. I hate saying that because everyone loves Chickfila sauce, but it's so good. You can't go wrong. I've even mastered my own homemade version, so I'm ashamed of my answer, but sticking to it, there's no Tingle involved, but it'll do. This is just Chickfila sauce with a Tingle. That's all it is. Ew, you've given me an opportunity, and now I can't let it go. So gross. What a thick filet sauce tastes like. I also don't really know that one. Well, I know the exact ingredients because, like I said, I have mastered which ingredients. Okay, the amounts. Check out my blog or it's not on the blog yet. Check out my Instagram. Go to this. Are you writing this down? No. I thought your hand was, like, writing something. I was like, Shoot, he's really invested in this

Participant #1:

pears. It's mostly mayonnaise. Okay. And then honey mustard. Barbecue sauce. Or you could do, like, a honey mustard if you didn't have honey and mustard. But yet honey mustard. I like honey mustard. Yeah, it's kind of like honey mustard, but more tingly.

Participant #1:

It's just more mayonnaise. But I wanted to say tingly again. I got so much crap for it, but you can just throw the word out, Willy nilly. Okay, it is your podcast

Participant #1:

credit for the word Tingle. Yeah, that's what I'm going to known as when this podcast just shoots off. Someday I'm going to get a Tingle guy

Participant #1:

who cut that one. I can't wait to episode description to write about you raving about broccoli and talking about your tingles coming out of my mouth. It felt so dirty. It feels wrong in every facet of it. Yeah, we can move on from the C word.

Participant #1:

Okay. I'm surprised we did not agree in any way. We all had very different answers there. I mean, I feel like if my zesty sauce is like, the cane sauce and I feel like we win, we win. I didn't know it's a win loose situation, but whatever. But it is. And you lost Hannah. Congrats. You're outnumbered. That's all that matters. Rude, rude. But now people have a recipe they can make. We just gave them the ingredients. Yeah. Where's your recipe? Guys try to beat me there. I don't know. In the winter. Let's see. Hold on.

Participant #1:

Wow. If you can nail them. Definitely pepper. There's definitely pepper in there. I feel like there is a little bit of mayonnaise, but it's probably light mayonnaise because it's not, like, super thick. I'm Googling it or they really water it down there's definitely some, like, Cajun seasoning in here. Think of that little bit of extra spice.

Participant #1:

No, honey mustard. I can guarantee there's no honey mustard in this one. I'll give you a hint. There's five ingredients. I want you to name them, and then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. Okay, we're going with mayonnaise. It had to be more specific. Light mayonnaise, just like normal ground pepper Cajun seasoning. I'm just looking at it right now. If I can see what the flex are. Got little specks of things in here.

Participant #1:

I got an extra one just for this podcast. Just so you know, just so I can taste this. I love that.

Participant #1:

All I can think about is the word mustard, but I don't think that Mustard's in there. It's just because of Hannah's recipe. What is the opposite of mustard? There's ketchup in here. I feel, but I used to put ketchup on everything. Like everything. As a kid, I made a sandwich, but just ketchup and a grape. It was the worst thing I ever had as a child. Worst thing I've ever had. Ketchup and grapes don't mix. How many questions? I was like, three. I was three years old. Go make yourself lunch. I like ketchup. I like grapes. Here's some red. Let's make a sandwich. Texture awful. You never want to have to bite into a sandwich and explode at you. Never a good feeling. Okay, so that's just ketchup, man. You're so close. So you got the mayonnaise, ketchup and pepper, right? What are the other two? There's no Cajun. Is there Cayenne? No, but it is a seasoning. I only know, like, three cake.

Participant #1:

Is there Sultan here? You're close. Salt and pepper. My only two. Okay. It's garlic salt, so very close. Dang it. I don't actually have salt in my house. It's garlic salt, because I like garlic salt more. That's funny. Okay, let me just tell you what the fifth one is. That you? Yeah. What's the fifth one? Worstester Shire sauce. Worcestersauce. How do you say Worcestershire sauce? Okay. Yes, that. Yeah. Worcesters.

Participant #1:

Worcesters. Right. I've always thought that that was correct, but I could be 100% wrong. That's how my family, the south said it. And so I'm pretty sure that might just be a little bit. A little bit of an influctuation of language there. Emily, how do you say worst? Chestershire, you guys say worse. Chester. Oh, boy. Okay. But I also have a history of mispronouncing words. This is true. I know this about you, like, ask for tame for the longest time.

Participant #1:

It's normal. If I say, I will never forget the day when we had that conversation where you learned that it's not what you call it. As part of me, I'm the one who taught you this. I remember I was. So I thought they were different things.

Participant #1:

Mine is even worse than Brendan. No one getshire right. But people do usually get aspartame right. Usually, aspartame to be honest, I don't think I've ever had to read that word out loud, like in a sentence around other people. Right. So I could totally mess it up, too. Yeah, it was food chemistry. And when you're reading words in your head, you don't have to say much different. Do we all take bio two or three with Doctor Bridges? Yes. Where he would say things in, like, a British accent. And I would have lab partners that would also say in a British accent. I'm like, guys, he just has an accent. That's not how you pronounce it. I know you're not British.

Participant #1:

It was like, Mitochondria or something that he would say. And all my lab partners would say, like, Mitochondria. And I'm like, there's so many Mitochondria memes out there. How can you say it wrong?

Participant #1:

The poet who said this in what a man that always just drove me crazy. I'm like, just because he says it doesn't mean that the word is he has an accent. I literally forgot about him until just now. That makes my heart so warm. I love him. I had two to be honest. But every time I think I'm mispronouncing words, I think of that moment nor Katie half. I'm pretty sure she would say that all the time because she's a very auditorial learner. So she just, like, hears it and regurgitates whatever she hears. She's really good at it, though. I mean, Katie's really smart, but I had to be like, Katie. He's got an accent. She's like, yeah, and I'm like that's how he says the word. But you're from New Jersey.

Participant #1:

They go off.

Participant #1:

That's funny. Okay, I'm going to get sad wrapping us up because it was just so great talking to you, Brendon. It was amazing talking to you guys, too. This is fun. Yeah. Thank you for taking your time out of your day to join us and join the podcast. Of course, I'm currently unemployed. Not that I didn't have anything else better to do. I love being here. I wanted to be here, but my days have been pretty boring so far. It's rained, like three days straight out here. What kind of timing? I'm 2 hours behind you guys, so it's about to hit 04:00. Okay, I was just curious. Okay, well, that's a good segue to our next question for those listening who want to start working with our friend Brendan here. How can our listeners find you to learn more about you or work with you or any of that? Absolutely. You can find me on Instagram at Bodybuybrindon. I know super cliche for personal trainer, but it really flows off the well. So Bodybuybrindon is my Instagram handle. And there's also a link to my personal website where I have personal training programs. Both are basic people that just want to get started. And also I offer one on one training just individually between me and you. That is bodybuybrindon. Com. Pretty self explanatory. The link would be in my Instagram, but, yeah, go check me out. Bodybuybrindon. Yeah, I can judge. I'm help with Hannah. So it's kind of the same thing. Alliteration is beautiful. We got to plan out as much as we can. Yes. And we'll also be including the link to his socials and stuff or whatever he wants to share with us in the description in case you have any trouble finding him,

Participant #1:

it shouldn't be hard, but people do struggle. I get that people will probably misspell my name. Honestly, that is the biggest struggle in my life. It's B-R-E-N-D-A-N for all of you listening. How it's pronounced now, there's no excuses, only spelled it out for you. Okay. Brandon, thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it. It will be so good for us to have this side of the health industry on our podcast. It was so informational and wonderful. Thank you so much. Absolutely. It's always fun getting the geek out about the things that I'm passionate about. And I know you guys are passionate about, too. So always nice to talk about how we can build a healthier future for as many people as we can. Yeah. All right. Bye, guys. Bye.

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